From bzg at altern.org  Sat Aug  1 01:39:25 2009
From: bzg at altern.org (Bastien)
Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 16:39:25 +0800
Subject: [gutvol-p] Re: If you don't mind testing a program
In-Reply-To: <212322090907311112y207a9bdh6126cc57baf2d94a@mail.gmail.com>
	(Paulo Levi's message of "Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:12:49 +0100")
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Paulo Levi <i30817 at gmail.com> writes:

> I'd like to know what do you think of the Gutenberg download (right
> click toggle Gutenberg).
>
> http://rapidshare.com/files/262224026/BookJar.7z.html

Does it work under GNU/Linux?

-- 
 Bastien


From i30817 at gmail.com  Sat Aug  1 10:33:19 2009
From: i30817 at gmail.com (Paulo Levi)
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 18:33:19 +0100
Subject: [gutvol-p] Re: If you don't mind testing a program
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	<87k51oexmq.fsf@bzg.ath.cx>
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Should work. After all its pure java.


From bzg at altern.org  Sat Aug  1 15:38:36 2009
From: bzg at altern.org (Bastien)
Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 06:38:36 +0800
Subject: [gutvol-p] Re: If you don't mind testing a program
In-Reply-To: <212322090908011033k1df9df2fj77ae1bc96d4174d5@mail.gmail.com>
	(Paulo Levi's message of "Sat, 1 Aug 2009 18:33:19 +0100")
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	<87k51oexmq.fsf@bzg.ath.cx>
	<212322090908011033k1df9df2fj77ae1bc96d4174d5@mail.gmail.com>
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Paulo Levi <i30817 at gmail.com> writes:

> Should work. After all its pure java.

Can you provide more directions?

Why not making it free software?

Thanks,

-- 
 Bastien


From i30817 at gmail.com  Sat Aug  1 15:54:37 2009
From: i30817 at gmail.com (Paulo Levi)
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 23:54:37 +0100
Subject: [gutvol-p] Re: If you don't mind testing a program
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	<87k51oexmq.fsf@bzg.ath.cx>
	<212322090908011033k1df9df2fj77ae1bc96d4174d5@mail.gmail.com> 
	<87prbf88ib.fsf@bzg.ath.cx>
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It is, this is just the version that has the gutenberg index. It's not on
the main page yet. Actually i still need to do a dropdown box to select the
language of the book (its harcoded english for now).

If you have svn access the code is at google code:
http://code.google.com/p/bookjar/source/checkout
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From i30817 at gmail.com  Sat Aug  1 16:06:06 2009
From: i30817 at gmail.com (Paulo Levi)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 00:06:06 +0100
Subject: [gutvol-p] Re: If you don't mind testing a program
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Did you find a problem anyway?
The are some bugs in the tts module , mostly because of latency of the sound
player and the sound mixer massive fail in linux but last time i tested* it
worked ok.


*a while ago.
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From i30817 at gmail.com  Sat Aug  1 16:48:56 2009
From: i30817 at gmail.com (Paulo Levi)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 00:48:56 +0100
Subject: [gutvol-p] Re: If you don't mind testing a program
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On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 12:06 AM, Paulo Levi <i30817 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Did you find a problem anyway?
> The are some bugs in the tts module , mostly because of latency of the
> sound player and the sound mixer massive fail in linux but last time i
> tested* it worked ok.
>
>
> *a while ago.
>

"David A. Desrosiers" <desrod at gnu-designs.com> wrote

On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Paulo Levi<i30817 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Did you find a problem anyway?

 Yes, it doesn't actually DO anything. This screenshot is the extent of
what I could get the application to do:

http://code.gnu-designs.com/images/Gutenberg-BookJar.png

I have no idea what the "Toggle Voice/Stop Voice" are supposed to do,
since it doesn't speak anything. Likewise with the increase/decrease
fonts. Since there are no "fonts" displayed anywhere (other than in
the menus themselves), what exactly would it be increasing/decreasing?

> The are some bugs in the tts module , mostly because of latency of the
sound
> player and the sound mixer massive fail in linux but last time i tested*
it
> worked ok.

 What exactly am I supposed to do with a big, gray screen with a tiny
thumbnail image in the middle of it? The menus don't really do much,
unless I'm supposed to load up a browser, find a Gutenberg text,
download it, stick it in a directory and point your reader at it. If I
have to do all that, I'll just read the etext in a browser using the
HTML formatted version of the books.




Try to open the toogle gutenberg write a title or author name in the text
field and click on the image/name that appears. You should see a download
icon on the left side. After it downloads, you can double click (or right
click and select open) to open the reader for that file. You can also open a
local file.

Do you suggest me starting the program with the gutenberg panel open?

That thumbnail is probably from the test i did before downloading (the
configuration file saves the downloaded files path, and the image webservice
doesn't depend on the file itself (it tries locally then if that fails tries
remotely), so that might be why you see the image but can double click and
read it. Just ignore that as a config bug.

As for the sound in the linux labs i had some problems with the default
fedora configuration here in the labs - it disabled the sound type the java
api uses (before i modified the soundplayer class it also didn't play if i
used the first line that appeared - the sound lines say they are ready but
they are actually in use and at the level that binding operates i guess
linux doesn't allow mixing. But it's probably something in the sound
configuration panel PCM disabled or something like that - though you don't
loose much, it's just the default freetts voice. I'm going to change to mary
eventually.
http://mary.dfki.de/Download


Also it's sound advice that the actions on the right click menu should be
contextual
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From bzg at altern.org  Sun Aug  2 00:44:36 2009
From: bzg at altern.org (Bastien)
Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 15:44:36 +0800
Subject: [gutvol-p] Re: If you don't mind testing a program
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	(Paulo Levi's message of "Sun, 2 Aug 2009 00:48:56 +0100")
References: <212322090907311112y207a9bdh6126cc57baf2d94a@mail.gmail.com>
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This message is confusing, I don't understand who is talking to who.

Paulo Levi <i30817 at gmail.com> writes:

> On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 12:06 AM, Paulo Levi <i30817 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     Did you find a problem anyway?
>     The are some bugs in the tts module , mostly because of latency of the
>     sound player and the sound mixer massive fail in linux but last time i
>     tested* it worked ok.
>
>     *a while ago.
>
> "David A. Desrosiers" <desrod at gnu-designs.com> wrote
>
> On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Paulo Levi<i30817 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Did you find a problem anyway?
>
> Yes, it doesn't actually DO anything. This screenshot is the extent of
> what I could get the application to do:
>
> http://code.gnu-designs.com/images/Gutenberg-BookJar.png
>
> I have no idea what the "Toggle Voice/Stop Voice" are supposed to do,
> since it doesn't speak anything. Likewise with the increase/decrease
> fonts. Since there are no "fonts" displayed anywhere (other than in
> the menus themselves), what exactly would it be increasing/decreasing?
>
>> The are some bugs in the tts module , mostly because of latency of the sound
>> player and the sound mixer massive fail in linux but last time i tested* it
>> worked ok.
>
> What exactly am I supposed to do with a big, gray screen with a tiny
> thumbnail image in the middle of it? The menus don't really do much,
> unless I'm supposed to load up a browser, find a Gutenberg text,
> download it, stick it in a directory and point your reader at it. If I
> have to do all that, I'll just read the etext in a browser using the
> HTML formatted version of the books.
>
> Try to open the toogle gutenberg write a title or author name in the text field
> and click on the image/name that appears. You should see a download icon on the
> left side. After it downloads, you can double click (or right click and select
> open) to open the reader for that file. You can also open a local file.
>
> Do you suggest me starting the program with the gutenberg panel open?
>
> That thumbnail is probably from the test i did before downloading (the
> configuration file saves the downloaded files path, and the image webservice
> doesn't depend on the file itself (it tries locally then if that fails tries
> remotely), so that might be why you see the image but can double click and read
> it. Just ignore that as a config bug.
>
> As for the sound in the linux labs i had some problems with the default fedora
> configuration here in the labs - it disabled the sound type the java api uses
> (before i modified the soundplayer class it also didn't play if i used the
> first line that appeared - the sound lines say they are ready but they are
> actually in use and at the level that binding operates i guess linux doesn't
> allow mixing. But it's probably something in the sound configuration panel PCM
> disabled or something like that - though you don't loose much, it's just the
> default freetts voice. I'm going to change to mary eventually.
> http://mary.dfki.de/Download
>
> Also it's sound advice that the actions on the right click menu should be
> contextual
>
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