From sly at victoria.tc.ca  Wed Aug 10 11:27:51 2005
From: sly at victoria.tc.ca (Andrew Sly)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 11:27:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PGCanada] First texts for PG Canada
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0508101103440.26909@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca>


Do any of our list participants here feel strongly about what
text(s) would be ideal to start with for PG Canada?

Some people attach a certain significance to certain numbers
and feel that a "number 1" has a certain importance.

Personally, I have no great preference, so I'm happy to
just pick some Canadiana text with no formatting difficulties
that is already availible to start with.

Andrew


From altstuff at gmail.com  Wed Aug 10 12:05:54 2005
From: altstuff at gmail.com (Trevor Trevor)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 15:05:54 -0400
Subject: [PGCanada] First texts for PG Canada
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0508101103440.26909@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca>
References: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0508101103440.26909@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca>
Message-ID: <8e18ba1c0508101205358aa0ee@mail.gmail.com>

Well, it may be a stereotype, but Anne of Green Gables is classic
Canadiana.  I know that the copyright ran out a few years ago, but
have no idea if it's ready.

A much older work would be Roughing It in the Bush.

Trevor


On 8/10/05, Andrew Sly <sly at victoria.tc.ca> wrote:
> 
> Do any of our list participants here feel strongly about what
> text(s) would be ideal to start with for PG Canada?
> 
> Some people attach a certain significance to certain numbers
> and feel that a "number 1" has a certain importance.
> 
> Personally, I have no great preference, so I'm happy to
> just pick some Canadiana text with no formatting difficulties
> that is already availible to start with.
> 
> Andrew
> _______________________________________________
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> Website: http://www.projectgutenberg.ca/
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From sly at victoria.tc.ca  Wed Aug 10 12:44:27 2005
From: sly at victoria.tc.ca (Andrew Sly)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 12:44:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PGCanada] First texts for PG Canada
In-Reply-To: <8e18ba1c0508101205358aa0ee@mail.gmail.com>
References: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0508101103440.26909@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca>
	<8e18ba1c0508101205358aa0ee@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0508101236470.29585@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca>

Thanks for the suggestion.

>From a quick glance, it appears that copyright on L. M. Montgomery
works published during her life would have expired as of Jan. 1, 1993.

I've worked closely with the text of Roughing It in the Bush,
and it does have some structural complexities I think I'd rather
save until later.

Both those works can be found in PG.
In fact, coincidentally enough, in the Project Gutenberg catalog, the
two authors in question are (alphabetically) adjactant to one another.
See: http://www.gutenberg.org/browse/authors/m

Andrew

On Wed, 10 Aug 2005, Trevor Trevor wrote:

> Well, it may be a stereotype, but Anne of Green Gables is classic
> Canadiana.  I know that the copyright ran out a few years ago, but
> have no idea if it's ready.
>
> A much older work would be Roughing It in the Bush.
>
> Trevor
>


From ag737 at freenet.carleton.ca  Wed Aug 10 12:11:51 2005
From: ag737 at freenet.carleton.ca (Wallace J.McLean)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 15:11:51 -0400
Subject: [PGCanada] First texts for PG Canada
Message-ID: <6306f5c442.5c4426306f@ncf.ca>

----- Original Message -----
From: Andrew Sly <sly at victoria.tc.ca>
Date: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 2:27 pm
Subject: [PGCanada] First texts for PG Canada

> Do any of our list participants here feel strongly about what
> text(s) would be ideal to start with for PG Canada?


I can't think off hand of a particular title, but perhaps the 
following paramaters should be used:

- by a Canadian author who died between 1950 and 1954, inclusive;

- published after 1923.

Thus, a "life+50" public-domain work that is just "barely legal" for 
our purposes, and something that is not eligible for including in PG 
under US rules.




From sly at victoria.tc.ca  Wed Aug 10 13:32:45 2005
From: sly at victoria.tc.ca (Andrew Sly)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 13:32:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PGCanada] First texts for PG Canada
In-Reply-To: <6306f5c442.5c4426306f@ncf.ca>
References: <6306f5c442.5c4426306f@ncf.ca>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0508101323470.17844@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca>

Hi Wallace.

On Wed, 10 Aug 2005, Wallace J.McLean wrote:

> I can't think off hand of a particular title, but perhaps the
> following paramaters should be used:
>
> - by a Canadian author who died between 1950 and 1954, inclusive;
>
> - published after 1923.
>
> Thus, a "life+50" public-domain work that is just "barely legal" for
> our purposes, and something that is not eligible for including in PG
> under US rules.
>

I can understand your interest in promoting works which have
had the recent privilige of ascending into the public domain,
but to start with, I'm looking to work with a couple
texts that are already availible, to reduce the number of
potential challenges occuring at once. :)

However, if you or anyone else is interested in researching to
find books that fit your criteria above, here is a list of
authors to start from....

Sir, Herbert Brown AMES {CA} (M: 1863Jun27 - 1954Mar30)
Marion Isabel ANGUS, nee HAND {CA} (F: 1902 - 1951)
Philip Christian ARMSTRONG {CA} (M: 1883 - 1952Mar25)
Harry ASHTON {CA?} (M: 1882Jan31 - 1952Jul12)
Edward Montague ASHWORTH {CA} (M: 1880 - 1954Mar26)
William Henry ATHERTON {CA} (M: 1867Nov15 - 1950Jul6)
Prof, Boris Petrovich BABKIN {RU/CA?} (M: 1877Jan4 - 1950May3)
Rev, Frank BAIRD {CA} (M: 1870 - 1951)
Nellie BALL, nee MARTIN {CA} (F: 1882 - 1950)
Francis Marion BEYNON {CA} (F: 1884 - 1951)
Algernon (Henry) BLACKWOOD {UK/CA?} (M: 1869Mar14 - 1951Dec10)
Rev, Salem Goldworth BLAND {CA} (M: 1859Aug25 - 1950Feb7)
Henri BOURASSA {CA} (M: 1868Sep1 - 1952Aug30)
Isaiah BOWMAN {CA} (M: 1878 - 1950)
Edmund William BRADWIN (M: 1877 - 1954Feb19)
John Wesley BREADY {CA} (M: 1887 - 1953)
Augustus BRIDLE {CA} (M: 1869 - 1952Dec21)
Edward Killoran BROWN {CA} (M: 1905Aug15 - 1951Apr24)
Walter Williamson BRYDEN {CA} (M: 1883 - 1952May23)
(Milton) Alexander BUCHANAN {CA} (M: 1878Jul17 - 1952May2)
Prof, Milton Alexander BUCHANAN {CA} (M: 1878Jul17 - 1952May2(<I>or</I>7))
Mabel (Grace) BURKHOLDER, nee CLARE {CA} (F: 1881 - 1954)
Alice Elizabeth BURTON {CA} (F: 1910 - 1952)
Marie Evelyn BYNG, Viscountess BYNG, nee MORETON (F: c1870 - c1950)
William Bleasdell CAMERON {CA} (M: 1862Jul26 - 1951Mar3)
Harry Morris CASSIDY (M: 1900Jan18 - 1951Nov2)
Harry Arthur CATES {CA} (M: 1890 - 1953Jul2)
Sir, Joseph Andrew CHISHOLM {CA} (M: 1863Jan9 - 1950Jan22)
Rene CHOPIN {CA} (M: 1885Apr21 - 1953Jun28)
Barrett Harper CLARK {CA?} (M: 1890 - 1953)
William Clifford CLARK {CA} (M: 1889 - 1952Dec27)
Prof, George Herbert CLARKE {CA} (M: 1873Aug27 - 1953Mar27)
Rev, John COBURN {CA} (M: 1874Apr19 - 1954May21)
Helena (Jane) COLEMAN {CA} (F: 1860 - 1953Dec7)
Arthur COLLINGWOOD {CA} (M: 1879 - 1952Jan22)
Margaret COMPLIN, nee ROBERTSON {CA} (F: ? - 1951)
Alwyn CORISTINE {CA} (M: 1887Mar12 - c1953-62)
George Hebden CORSAN {CA} (M: 1857 - 1952Jan31)
Abp, Georges COURCHESNE {CA} (M: 1880Sep13 - 1950Nov14)
James Herbert CRANSTON {CA} (M: 1880Jul26 - 1952Dec18)
James Watson CURRAN {CA} (M: 1865Apr24 - 1952Feb20)
Prof, James Alfred DALE {UK/CA?} (M: 1874Jun11 - 1951Nov27)
Frank Parker DAY {CA} (M: 1881May9 - 1950Jul30)
Frederick Montague DELAFOSSE {CA} (M: 1860 - 1950Sep29)
Muriel DENISON, nee GOGGIN {CA} (F: 1886 - 1954)
Judge, Robert Maxwell DENNISTOUN {CA} (M: 1864Dec24 - 1952Oct11)
(Alexander) Gordon DEWEY {CA/US?} (M: 1890 - 1953May4)
Frank A DOANE {CA} (M: 1862 - 1950Oct7)
Edmond DYONNET {CA} (M: 1859 - 1954Jul8)
Charles Aubrey EATON {CA} (M: 1868 - 1953)
Rev, James ENDICOTT {CA?} (M: 1865May8 - 1954Mar8)
Robert Edis FAIRBAIRN {CA} (M: 1880 - 1951)
John Colborne FARTHING {CA} (M: 1897Mar18 - 1954Mar9)
W Neil FERGUSSON {CA} (M: c1869 - 1954Jul18)
Frances (J) (nee)Hubbard FLAHERTY {CA} (F: c1885 - after1950)
Robert Joseph FLAHERTY {CA} (M: 1884Feb16 - 1951Jul23)
Bp, Archibald Lang FLEMING {CA?} (M: 1883Sep8 - 1953May(<I>or</I>Jul)17)
Pearl (Beatrix) FOLEY {CA} (F: ? - 1953Oct12)
Alexander Louis FRASER {CA} (M: 1870 - 1954)
Leon GERIN {CA} (M: 1863May17 - 1951Jan17)
Percy P GHENT {CA} (M: 1888 - 1952Sep21)
John Murray GIBBON {CA} (M: 1875Apr12 - 1952Jul2)
Watson GRIFFIN {CA} (M: 1860Nov4 - 1952Jan10)
Edwin Austin HARDY {CA} (M: 1867Aug30 - 1952Oct31)
Charles Eugene HARPE {CA} (M: 1909 - 1952Jul31)
Athelstan George HARVEY {CA} (M: 1884 - 1950Jan15)
William Joseph HEALY {CA} (M: 1867Apr15 - 1950Aug24)
Lilian Margaret HENDRIE {CA} (F: 1870 - 1952May12)
Rev, James Cobourg HODGINS {CA} (M: 1866 - 1953Dec29)
Rev, Charles Herbert HUESTIS {CA} (M: 1863 - 1951)
Nicholas IGNATIEFF {CA} (M: 1904Mar7 - 1952Mar28)
Prof, Harold Adams INNIS {CA} (M: 1894Nov5 - 1952Nov8)
Henry Allan IRONSIDE {CA/US?} (M: 1876Oct14 - 1951Jan15)
Prof, William T JACKMAN {CA} (M: 1871Jan8 - 1951Nov8)
Charles William JEFFERYS {CA?} (M: 1869Aug25 - 1951Oct8)
John Walter JONES {CA} (M: 1878Apr14 - 1954Mar31)
George KEEN {CA} (M: 1869May8 - 1953Dec4)
Roderick Stuart KENNEDY {CA} (M: 1889Dec16 - 1953May18)
Wilfred Brenton KERR {CA} (M: 1896 - 1950Jan12)
William Lyon Mackenzie KING {CA} (M: 1874Dec17 - 1950Jul22)
Rev, George Frederick KINGSTON {CA} (M: 1889 - 1950)
Hugh Hornby LANGTON {CA} (M: 1862Aug29 - 1953Sep30)
Antoine-Joseph LEGER {CA} (M: 1880Oct16 - 1950Apr7)
Malcolm Stanley LEHIGH {CA} (M: 1875 - 1954)
Lilian LEVERIDGE {CA} (F: 1879 - 1953)
Ray LEVINSKY, Mrs Joshua SMITH {CA} (F: ? - 1954Jul5)
William Douw LIGHTHALL {CA} (M: 1857Dec27 - 1954(<I>wrongly</I>1946)Aug3)
Florence (Hamilton) (nee)Randal LIVESAY {CA} (F: 1874Nov3 - 1953Jul28)
Charles Auguste de LOTBINIERE-HARWOOD {CA} (M: 1869Aug2 - 1954Jun20)
Prof, William James LOUDON {CA} (M: 1860Jun25 - 1951Sep27)
Prof, James William McBAIN {CA/US?} (M: 1892Mar22 - 1953Mar12)
Nellie Letitia McCLUNG, nee MOONEY {CA} (F: 1873Oct20 - 1951Sep1)
Angus Lewis MACDONALD {CA} (M: 1890Aug10 - 1954Apr13)
James Brown MacDOUGALL {CA} (M: 1871Jun1 - 1950May28)
Owen Ernest McGILLICUDDY {CA} (M: 1887<I>or</I>1888 - 1954Aug11)
Tom(=Thomas Robert Edward) MacINNES {CA} (M: 1867Oct29 - 1951Feb11)
Neil Kenneth McKECHNIE {CA} (M: 1873 - 1951Jun5)
John Y MacKINNON {CA} (M: 1886 - 1951)
Thomas George McKITRICK {CA} (M: 1873 - 1952)
Cyrus (John) MACMILLAN {CA} (M: 1882 - 1953)
Helen MACMURCHY {CA} (F: 1862Jan7 - 1953Oct8)
Margaret (May) McWILLIAMS, nee STOVEL {CA} (F: 1875 - 1952Apr12)
Archibald MALLOCH {CA} (M: 1887Aug10 - 1953Sep18)
Alice Stuart MASSEY, nee PARKIN {CA} (F: c1885 - 1950Jul29)
Andrew Doane MERKEL {CA} (M: 1884Dec15 - 1954Jun25)
Helen M MERRILL {CA} (F: 1866 - 1951)
William Charles MIKEL {CA} (M: 1867 - 1950Oct)
John Hanlon MITCHELL {CA} (M: 1897 - 1953)
John (Wendell) MITCHELL {CA} (M: 1880(<I>or</I>1882)Apr1 - 1951Oct18)
Edouard MONTPETIT {CA} (M: 1882 - 1954Mar27)
Rev, Ernest Lloyd MORROW {CA} (M: 1884Sep2 - 1951Feb3)
Rev, William Inglis MORSE {CA} (M: 1874Jun4 - 1952Jun5)
George Frederick MOUNTFORD {CA} (M: 1890 - 1950)
(Walter Alfred) Don MUNDAY {CA} (M: 1890(<I>or</I>1888)Mar16 - 1950Jun12)
Prof, Gilbert NORWOOD {CA} (M: 1880Nov23 - 1954Oct16(<I>or</I>15<I>or</I>18))
Lewis Craven ORD {CA} (M: 1881 - 1952Jun)
William Frederick OSBORNE {CA} (M: 1873Sep8 - 1950Feb4)
Lawrence Arthur Colley PANTON {CA} (M: 1894Jun15 - 1954Nov22)
Rev, Stuart Crawford PARKER {CA} (M: 1888Nov21 - 1950Jan15)
Judge, George Geddie PATTERSON {CA} (M: 1864 - 1951Sep10)
Francis/Frank Lillie POLLOCK {CA} (M: 1876 - after1950)
Paul RAINVILLE {CA} (M: 1887Sep15 - 1952May15)
Alice RAVENHILL {CA} (F: 1859Mar31 - 1954May27)
Winnifred REEVE, nee EATON, 1:Mrs BABCOCK ? {CA} (F: 1875<I>or</I>1879 - 1954)
Thomas Arthur RICKARD {CA?} (M: 1864Aug29 - 1953Aug15)
Rev, John Henry RIDDELL {CA} (M: 1863Nov1 - 1952Nov9)
Robert Gerald RIDDELL {CA} (M: 1908May4 - 1951Mar16)
Rev, David Lakie RITCHIE {CA} (M: 1864(<I>wrongly</I>1865)Sep15 - 1951Dec14)
(George Edward) Theodore Goodridge ROBERTS {CA} (M: 1877Jul7 - 1953Feb23<I>or</
Rev, Hugh John ROBERTSON {CA} (M: 1868 - 1952)
John Daniel ROBINS {CA} (M: 1884Sep8 - 1952Dec18)
Hazel ROBINSON {CA} (F: ? - 1954)
Percy James ROBINSON {CA} (M: 1873Oct18 - 1953Jun19)
Fr, Georges ROBITAILLE {CA} (M: 1883Jun13 - 1950Jun)
William Kirby ROLPH {CA} (M: 1917 - 1953Dec22)
Alexander Herbert Douglas ROSS {CA} (M: ? - 1950Apr6)
Pierre Georges ROY {CA} (M: 1870Oct23 - 1953Nov4)
Fletcher RUARK {CA} (M: 1879<I>or</I>1880 - 1952Jan1)
Bernard Keble SANDWELL {CA} (M: 1876Dec6 - 1954Dec7)
Henry Scholey SAUNDERS (M: 1864 - 1951Oct29)
Dr, Edwin SEABORN {CA} (M: 1872 - 1951)
Holly Skiff SEAMAN {CA} (F: c1884 - 1952Apr7)
Joseph Leopold SMITH {CA} (M: 1881 - 1952Apr18)
Prof, Simeon SPIDLE {CA} (M: 1867 - 1954Sep26)
Orlando John STEVENSON {CA} (M: 1869 - 1950Aug15)
Prof, Herbert Leslie STEWART {CA} (M: 1882Mar31 - 1953Sep19)
Ethel STILLWELL, Mrs ALLAN {CA} (F: 1883Mar31 - 1953Apr18)
Arthur (John Arbuthnot/Arbuthnott) STRINGER {CA/US:1937on} (M: 1874Feb26 - 1950
Alexander Hugh SUTHERLAND {CA} (M: 1870 - 1952)
William Walker SWANSON {CA} (M: 1879Dec15 - 1950Jul21)
Rev, Robert Bruce TAYLOR {CA} (M: 1869Oct22 - 1954May30)
William Robert TAYLOR {CA} (M: 1882Apr12 - 1951Feb24)
Sister, Mary THEODORE {CA} (F: 1856 - 1951)
A Vernon THOMAS {CA} (M: 1876 - 1950)
John Stuart THOMSON {CA} (M: 1869 - 1950Apr12)
Frederick TRACY {CA} (M: 1862May18 - 1951Jun10)
Prof, Ramsay TRAQUAIR {CA} (M: 1874Mar29 - 1952Aug26)
Prof, Reginald George TROTTER {CA} (M: 1888Jul14 - 1951Apr7<I>or</I>17)
Hugh MacIntyre URQUHART {CA} (M: 1880 - 1950)
Abp, Alexandre VACHON {CA} (M: 1885Aug16 - 1953Mar30)
Hermann WALTER {CA} (M: 1863 - 1952Feb18)
John Clarence WEBSTER {CA} (M: 1863Oct21 - 1950Mar16)
Mary WHITE {CA?} (F: 1869 - 1952)
Michael WILLIAMS {US} (M: 1878 - 1950)
Lydia WILLIAMSON, nee BUCKLAND {CA} (F: 1860 - 1952)
Harry Milner WODSON {CA} (M: 1874 - 1952Mar8)
(Humphrey) Hume WRONG {CA} (M: 1894Sep10 - 1954Jan21<I>or</I>24)



From ag737 at freenet.carleton.ca  Wed Aug 10 13:36:21 2005
From: ag737 at freenet.carleton.ca (Wallace J.McLean)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 16:36:21 -0400
Subject: [PGCanada] First texts for PG Canada
Message-ID: <62f3264740.6474062f32@ncf.ca>

----- Original Message -----
From: Andrew Sly <sly at victoria.tc.ca>
Date: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 4:32 pm
Subject: Re: [PGCanada] First texts for PG Canada

> I can understand your interest in promoting works which have
> had the recent privilige of ascending into the public domain,
> but to start with, I'm looking to work with a couple
> texts that are already availible, to reduce the number of
> potential challenges occuring at once. :)

In that case, I'd suggest "Book 1" be a batch-accession of EVERY PG 
and PG-OZ and Rastko text that's PD under Canadian law.

And yes, I am volunteering to start doing clearance research on those. 
(Not alone, but I'll gladly start.)





From mlockey at honson.com  Wed Aug 10 13:43:36 2005
From: mlockey at honson.com (Michael Lockey)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 16:43:36 -0400
Subject: [PGCanada] First texts for PG Canada
In-Reply-To: <6306f5c442.5c4426306f@ncf.ca>
References: <6306f5c442.5c4426306f@ncf.ca>
Message-ID: <42FA66F8.7030206@honson.com>

Wallace J.McLean wrote:

>>Do any of our list participants here feel strongly about what
>>text(s) would be ideal to start with for PG Canada?
>>    
>>
>
>
>I can't think off hand of a particular title, but perhaps the 
>following paramaters should be used:
>
>- by a Canadian author who died between 1950 and 1954, inclusive;
>
>- published after 1923.
>  
>
IMHO, one of Canada's formost stylists was the almost-forgotten Globe 
and Mail writer, J. V. McAree.  His book, 'Cabbagetown Store', (Ryerson 
Press, 1953), and about his childhood, is brilliant, as are his 
columns.  He did write other stuff, too.  He died in 1956; which would 
be as current as we could wish (in a few months).

Michael (Vasa) Lockey


From ag737 at freenet.carleton.ca  Wed Aug 10 14:31:18 2005
From: ag737 at freenet.carleton.ca (Wallace J.McLean)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 17:31:18 -0400
Subject: [PGCanada] First texts for PG Canada
Message-ID: <60dc366b25.66b2560dc3@ncf.ca>

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Lockey <mlockey at honson.com>
Date: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 4:43 pm
Subject: Re: [PGCanada] First texts for PG Canada

> IMHO, one of Canada's formost stylists was the almost-forgotten 
> Globe 
> and Mail writer, J. V. McAree.  His book, 'Cabbagetown Store', 
> (Ryerson 
> Press, 1953), and about his childhood, is brilliant, as are his 
> columns.  He did write other stuff, too.  He died in 1956; which 
> would 
> be as current as we could wish (in a few months).

Well, a little over a year: 1956 = CR until the end of 2006.

Interestingly, though, that's also when A.A. Milne's works will become 
PD in that majority of the world that is life+50... which is why I 
strongly suspect Disney is putting the heavy on so many countries to 
go to life+70. For them, it's "urgent".




From AuntieSocial at rogers.com  Wed Aug 10 18:10:17 2005
From: AuntieSocial at rogers.com (AuntieSocial)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 21:10:17 -0400
Subject: [PGCanada] First texts for PG Canada
References: <6306f5c442.5c4426306f@ncf.ca>
	<Pine.GSO.4.58.0508101323470.17844@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca>
Message-ID: <00a501c59e11$6fdb41c0$300f9918@lynupcnaa328zv>

I would add to your list, George John ROMANES  (1848 - 1894) - born in 
Kingston, ON and moved to England.  He wan an eminent Evolutionist 
(assistant to Charles Darwin).  Although I wouldn't suggest any of his works 
for #1, I do have clearances on most of his major publications.  I just 
wanted to add him to the list.

~Marilynda

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andrew Sly" <sly at victoria.tc.ca>
To: "Project Gutenberg of Canada" <pgcanada at lists.pglaf.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [PGCanada] First texts for PG Canada


>
> However, if you or anyone else is interested in researching to
> find books that fit your criteria above, here is a list of
> authors to start from....
>



From AuntieSocial at rogers.com  Wed Aug 10 18:28:48 2005
From: AuntieSocial at rogers.com (AuntieSocial)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 21:28:48 -0400
Subject: [PGCanada] First texts for PG Canada
References: <6306f5c442.5c4426306f@ncf.ca><Pine.GSO.4.58.0508101323470.17844@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca>
	<00a501c59e11$6fdb41c0$300f9918@lynupcnaa328zv>
Message-ID: <00d101c59e14$0682d820$300f9918@lynupcnaa328zv>

Actually, scratch that.  I noticed after sending the reply that you were 
focusing specifically on a narrow PD window.  Still, Romanes should be 
catalogued in the PG Canada archive.

~Marilynda--who doesn't seem to multi-task well these days.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "AuntieSocial" <AuntieSocial at rogers.com>
To: "Project Gutenberg of Canada" <pgcanada at lists.pglaf.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: [PGCanada] First texts for PG Canada


>I would add to your list, George John ROMANES  (1848 - 1894) - born in 
>Kingston, ON and moved to England.  He wan an eminent Evolutionist 
>(assistant to Charles Darwin).  Although I wouldn't suggest any of his 
>works for #1, I do have clearances on most of his major publications.  I 
>just wanted to add him to the list.
>
> ~Marilynda
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Andrew Sly" <sly at victoria.tc.ca>
> To: "Project Gutenberg of Canada" <pgcanada at lists.pglaf.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 4:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [PGCanada] First texts for PG Canada
>
>
>>
>> However, if you or anyone else is interested in researching to
>> find books that fit your criteria above, here is a list of
>> authors to start from....
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Project Gutenberg of Canada
> Website: http://www.projectgutenberg.ca/
> List: pgcanada at lists.pglaf.org
> Archives: http://lists.pglaf.org/private.cgi/pgcanada/
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From hart at pglaf.org  Thu Aug 11 12:56:35 2005
From: hart at pglaf.org (Michael Hart)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 12:56:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PGCanada] First texts for PG Canada
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0508101323470.17844@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca>
References: <6306f5c442.5c4426306f@ncf.ca>
	<Pine.GSO.4.58.0508101323470.17844@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.60.0508111255260.21762@pglaf.org>


Please let me know when I could/should put mention of these
first PGCanada eBooks in the PG Newsletters.

Thanks!!!

Michael S. Hart
Founder
Project Gutenberg



From AuntieSocial at rogers.com  Sat Aug 13 20:50:02 2005
From: AuntieSocial at rogers.com (AuntieSocial)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 23:50:02 -0400
Subject: [PGCanada] First texts for PG Canada
References: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0508101103440.26909@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca>
Message-ID: <002701c5a083$40afa520$300f9918@lynupcnaa328zv>

How about a history or politics book about the formation of the Dominion of 
Canada?

I would have liked to see the following as "number 1," however, it is still 
in P2 on PGDP:

Author: Adam, G. Mercer (Graeme Mercer), 1839-1912
Title: Canada's Patriot Statesman; The Life and Career of the Right 
Honourable Sir John A. MacDonald
Place of publication: Toronto,
Publisher: Rose Publishing Company, Limited
Date of publication: 1891.
Note: Based on the work of Collins, Joseph Edmund, 1855-1892

There are a couple of books by Adam available in the PG Archive.

Or, Stephen Leacock's (1869-1944) "The Dawn of Canadian History: A Chronicle 
of Aboriginal Canada, PG EText No. 4069.

~Marilynda Fraser-Cunliffe

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andrew Sly" <sly at victoria.tc.ca>
To: <PGCanada at lists.pglaf.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 2:27 PM
Subject: [PGCanada] First texts for PG Canada


>
> Do any of our list participants here feel strongly about what
> text(s) would be ideal to start with for PG Canada?
>
> Some people attach a certain significance to certain numbers
> and feel that a "number 1" has a certain importance.
>
> Personally, I have no great preference, so I'm happy to
> just pick some Canadiana text with no formatting difficulties
> that is already availible to start with.
>
> Andrew
> _______________________________________________
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> Website: http://www.projectgutenberg.ca/
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> 



From mlockey at honson.com  Sat Aug 13 23:56:00 2005
From: mlockey at honson.com (Michael Lockey)
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 02:56:00 -0400
Subject: [PGCanada] 1st Sighting of DP-Canada
In-Reply-To: <002701c5a083$40afa520$300f9918@lynupcnaa328zv>
References: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0508101103440.26909@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca>
	<002701c5a083$40afa520$300f9918@lynupcnaa328zv>
Message-ID: <42FEEB00.9070307@honson.com>

Sorry to start this with a winge, but it's necessary to explain the 
reason for the post.

As some of you may know, I've been rather peaky for the last three 
months: flat on my back except for an hour a day hobbling around under 
the aegis of an RSN (Regimental Sargent Nurse).  I  had hoped to be 
mobile within the next week; this may be delayed by as much as two 
months.  I believe DP-Canada can't be delayed that long.  Consequently, 
I've exposed a bit of the site (www.dp50.com/forum) as a place that folk 
can discuss different issues regarding such a site.

Points in no particular order:

1: I want no part of anything that impacts DP-INT or DP-EU.  
Consequently I think all these discussions should be kept (sorta) quiet.

2: If you look at (all mine!) existing posts, you'll see the "I" word a 
lot.  That's just because it is me; and not to be confused with 
DP-Canada, where "I" will have one vote, and mostly will defer to others 
who know more than I do.

3: I would specifically ask you to read one post, "Profit/non-profit 
corporation", as this is my main fighting point, though still debatable.

4: This message is to pgcanada at lists.pglaf.org, and selected individuals 
at the two DPs.  I do NOT expect all such folk to take an active role in 
the site; for some, it's merely FYI; some others may be in a position to 
proffer advice or assistance.

5: Particularly due to my current situation, I'd appreciate it if anyone 
would like to assist or take over administering the Forums.  I don't 
expect there to be much to do; probably just adding some new forums as 
the need becomes apparent.  Failing a 'volunteer', I'll keep doing it, 
but there may be a day or two delay in events.

6: If anyone wants a dp50 email (to keep these messages separate) I'll 
be happy to oblige...

Respectfully,

Michael (Vasa) Lockey


From sly at victoria.tc.ca  Sun Aug 14 23:13:41 2005
From: sly at victoria.tc.ca (Andrew Sly)
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 23:13:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PGCanada] First texts for PG Canada
In-Reply-To: <00a501c59e11$6fdb41c0$300f9918@lynupcnaa328zv>
References: <6306f5c442.5c4426306f@ncf.ca>
	<Pine.GSO.4.58.0508101323470.17844@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca>
	<00a501c59e11$6fdb41c0$300f9918@lynupcnaa328zv>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0508142312220.12742@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca>

Ok, then. This will be going ahead soon.

Anyone feel like voting between these two possibilities?

The Dawn of Canadian History : A Chronicle of Aboriginal Canada
http://www.gutenberg.net/etext/4069

Anne Of Green Gables
http://www.gutenberg.net/etext/45


Andrew



From jeremy.lammi at uleth.ca  Tue Aug 16 01:34:53 2005
From: jeremy.lammi at uleth.ca (Jeremy Lammi)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 02:34:53 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [PGCanada] First texts for PG Canada
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0508142312220.12742@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca>
References: <6306f5c442.5c4426306f@ncf.ca>   
	<Pine.GSO.4.58.0508101323470.17844@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca>   
	<00a501c59e11$6fdb41c0$300f9918@lynupcnaa328zv>   
	<Pine.GSO.4.58.0508142312220.12742@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca>
Message-ID: <1275.70.65.169.56.1124181293.squirrel@70.65.169.56>

> Ok, then. This will be going ahead soon.
>
> Anyone feel like voting between these two
> possibilities?

I vote for Anne. I assume the other will go in
for number two.  Has anyone thought of any sort
of press release or like to put out?

Jeremy






From sly at victoria.tc.ca  Tue Aug 16 09:14:16 2005
From: sly at victoria.tc.ca (Andrew Sly)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 09:14:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PGCanada] First texts for PG Canada
In-Reply-To: <1275.70.65.169.56.1124181293.squirrel@70.65.169.56>
References: <6306f5c442.5c4426306f@ncf.ca>
	<Pine.GSO.4.58.0508101323470.17844@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca>
	<00a501c59e11$6fdb41c0$300f9918@lynupcnaa328zv>   
	<Pine.GSO.4.58.0508142312220.12742@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca>
	<1275.70.65.169.56.1124181293.squirrel@70.65.169.56>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0508160905480.19968@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca>



On Tue, 16 Aug 2005, Jeremy Lammi wrote:

> I vote for Anne. I assume the other will go in
> for number two.  Has anyone thought of any sort
> of press release or like to put out?
>

I was thinking of getting a few texts together first,
and ask some volunteers to help find the inevitable
bugs before making a public announcement.

If you would like to start writing some kind of
press release, please do. It would be appreciated.


Andrew


From AuntieSocial at rogers.com  Tue Aug 16 15:28:25 2005
From: AuntieSocial at rogers.com (AuntieSocial)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 18:28:25 -0400
Subject: [PGCanada] First texts for PG Canada
References: <6306f5c442.5c4426306f@ncf.ca><Pine.GSO.4.58.0508101323470.17844@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca><00a501c59e11$6fdb41c0$300f9918@lynupcnaa328zv>
	<Pine.GSO.4.58.0508142312220.12742@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca>
Message-ID: <004d01c5a2b1$d1f96220$300f9918@lynupcnaa328zv>

Although I really enjoyed the Anne of Green Gables books, and own at least 3 
editions, I feel that the book is not representative of all of Canada.  Just 
my two cents.

That being said, if consensus is to release this as book 1, then I guess it 
will be book 1.

Maybe we could put our heads together and comb the PG and PG-OZ archives for 
a list of 50 books (preferably from 50 different authors covering all areas 
of the country) which could be included in the first release.  I think that 
would make for a nice News Release number.  Any thoughts/suggestions?

There are currently 4 Nellie McClung (1873-1951) books on PG (and another in 
Post-Processing at PGDP).  I'll take a look at some other authors and see if 
I can put together a nice list.  I'll try to focus on authors in the 50+-70+ 
window.

Marilynda Fraser-Cunliffe

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andrew Sly" <sly at victoria.tc.ca>
To: "Project Gutenberg of Canada" <pgcanada at lists.pglaf.org>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 2:13 AM
Subject: Re: [PGCanada] First texts for PG Canada


> Ok, then. This will be going ahead soon.
>
> Anyone feel like voting between these two possibilities?
>
> The Dawn of Canadian History : A Chronicle of Aboriginal Canada
> http://www.gutenberg.net/etext/4069
>
> Anne Of Green Gables
> http://www.gutenberg.net/etext/45
>
>
> Andrew
>
> _______________________________________________
> Project Gutenberg of Canada
> Website: http://www.projectgutenberg.ca/
> List: pgcanada at lists.pglaf.org
> Archives: http://lists.pglaf.org/private.cgi/pgcanada/ 



From ag737 at freenet.carleton.ca  Fri Aug 19 19:54:47 2005
From: ag737 at freenet.carleton.ca (Wallace J.McLean)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 22:54:47 -0400
Subject: [PGCanada] First texts for PG Canada
Message-ID: <1f4b81bb0e.1bb0e1f4b8@ncf.ca>

I want to recycle another suggestion from the spring, I think made by 
David Fewer: Rockbound, by Frank Parker Day the public-domain book that 
won "Canada Reads" on CBC, that sold a quarter of a million copies 
(under the U of T imprint) in Canada, and which has the added 
attractiveness of being PD in Canada, but not in the US (at least not 
under the primary rule.)




From mlockey at honson.com  Sat Aug 20 00:04:30 2005
From: mlockey at honson.com (Michael Lockey)
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 03:04:30 -0400
Subject: [PGCanada] First texts for PG Canada
In-Reply-To: <1f4b81bb0e.1bb0e1f4b8@ncf.ca>
References: <1f4b81bb0e.1bb0e1f4b8@ncf.ca>
Message-ID: <4306D5FE.6010709@honson.com>

How about anything by John Buchan- Lord Tweedmure, and Governor-General 
of Canada?  Died in 1940; in copyright inboth US/UK, probably /'The 
Thirty-Nine Steps/' would be the most obvious choice.  He did write over 
a hundred books, though....


Michael (Vasa) Lockey
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From sly at victoria.tc.ca  Sat Aug 20 00:08:45 2005
From: sly at victoria.tc.ca (Andrew Sly)
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 00:08:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PGCanada] First texts for PG Canada
In-Reply-To: <1f4b81bb0e.1bb0e1f4b8@ncf.ca>
References: <1f4b81bb0e.1bb0e1f4b8@ncf.ca>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0508200004230.7059@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca>


I think that is a wonderful suggestion.
I take it we would need to work from a 1928 edition...

Andrew

On Fri, 19 Aug 2005, Wallace J.McLean wrote:

> I want to recycle another suggestion from the spring, I think made by
> David Fewer: Rockbound, by Frank Parker Day the public-domain book that
> won "Canada Reads" on CBC, that sold a quarter of a million copies
> (under the U of T imprint) in Canada, and which has the added
> attractiveness of being PD in Canada, but not in the US (at least not
> under the primary rule.)
>


From ag737 at freenet.carleton.ca  Sat Aug 20 15:13:10 2005
From: ag737 at freenet.carleton.ca (Wallace J.McLean)
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 18:13:10 -0400
Subject: [PGCanada] First texts for PG Canada
Message-ID: <257f8294da.294da257f8@ncf.ca>

----- Original Message -----
From: Andrew Sly <sly at victoria.tc.ca>
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2005 3:08 am
Subject: Re: [PGCanada] First texts for PG Canada

> 
> I think that is a wonderful suggestion.
> I take it we would need to work from a 1928 edition...
> 
> Andrew

It's already up ag PG-OZ...



From hart at pglaf.org  Mon Aug 22 10:34:35 2005
From: hart at pglaf.org (Michael Hart)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 10:34:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PGCanada] First texts for PG Canada
In-Reply-To: <257f8294da.294da257f8@ncf.ca>
References: <257f8294da.294da257f8@ncf.ca>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.60.0508221033550.23637@pglaf.org>


On Sat, 20 Aug 2005, Wallace J.McLean wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Andrew Sly <sly at victoria.tc.ca>
> Date: Saturday, August 20, 2005 3:08 am
> Subject: Re: [PGCanada] First texts for PG Canada
>
>>
>> I think that is a wonderful suggestion.
>> I take it we would need to work from a 1928 edition...
>>
>> Andrew
>
> It's already up ag PG-OZ...


Personally, _I_ think everything from PG of OZ should also be at PGC.

;-)


Michael S. Hart
Founder
Project Gutenberg



From ag737 at freenet.carleton.ca  Mon Aug 22 10:49:29 2005
From: ag737 at freenet.carleton.ca (Wallace J.McLean)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 13:49:29 -0400
Subject: [PGCanada] First texts for PG Canada
Message-ID: <48bc44cb09.4cb0948bc4@ncf.ca>

Is there a database-ready listing of PG and PG-OZ titles? I'd like 
something that I can flip into, say, Excel, with Title, author, and 
pubdate fields, at a minimum.





From sly at victoria.tc.ca  Mon Aug 22 10:53:59 2005
From: sly at victoria.tc.ca (Andrew Sly)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 10:53:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PGCanada] First texts for PG Canada
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.60.0508221033550.23637@pglaf.org>
References: <257f8294da.294da257f8@ncf.ca>
	<Pine.LNX.4.60.0508221033550.23637@pglaf.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0508221050010.27799@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca>



On Mon, 22 Aug 2005, Michael Hart wrote:

>
> Personally, _I_ think everything from PG of OZ should also be at PGC.
>
> ;-)
>

There are a decent number of Canadiana items that were posted at PG
of OZ, as the only PG-type life+50 repository at the time.
They would seem to be a natural for inclusion.

Again, it will come down to the question of "What will volunteers
spend their time doing?"

Andrew


From sly at victoria.tc.ca  Mon Aug 22 11:06:15 2005
From: sly at victoria.tc.ca (Andrew Sly)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 11:06:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PGCanada] First texts for PG Canada
In-Reply-To: <48bc44cb09.4cb0948bc4@ncf.ca>
References: <48bc44cb09.4cb0948bc4@ncf.ca>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0508221105240.22763@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca>



On Mon, 22 Aug 2005, Wallace J.McLean wrote:

> Is there a database-ready listing of PG and PG-OZ titles? I'd like
> something that I can flip into, say, Excel, with Title, author, and
> pubdate fields, at a minimum.
>


See: http://www.gutenberg.org/browse/offline
for finding gutindex files--which, however, will give
you plenty of challenges if you try to convert them
into a database. (as many have found in the past)
You can also find GUTINDEX.AUS for PG of OZ titles
on that same page.

See: http://www.gutenberg.org/feeds/
for the Project Gutenberg Catalog in RDF/XML Format.
This will require a bit of parsing, and don't be
surprised if you find inconsistancies. As you start
to deal with larger numbers of items, you realize
that concepts such as "Title" and "Author" are not
as simple as you might think.

For PG of OZ, I am not aware of anything more structured
than the gutindex mentioned above. Try taking a look at:
http://gutenberg.net.au/plusfifty.html


Andrew


From nwolcott at dsdial.net  Mon Aug 22 13:33:17 2005
From: nwolcott at dsdial.net (N Wolcott)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 16:33:17 -0400
Subject: [PGCanada] First texts for PG Canada
References: <1f4b81bb0e.1bb0e1f4b8@ncf.ca> <4306D5FE.6010709@honson.com>
Message-ID: <028d01c5a75c$9ab96bc0$529495ce@gw98>

39 Steps is already on PG #558, date 1996. Published in 1915, is out of copyright in US. 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Michael Lockey 
  To: Project Gutenberg of Canada 
  Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 3:04 AM
  Subject: Re: [PGCanada] First texts for PG Canada


  How about anything by John Buchan- Lord Tweedmure, and Governor-General of Canada?  Died in 1940; in copyright inboth US/UK, probably 'The Thirty-Nine Steps' would be the most obvious choice.  He did write over a hundred books, though....


  Michael (Vasa) Lockey



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From ag737 at freenet.carleton.ca  Tue Aug 23 12:48:33 2005
From: ag737 at freenet.carleton.ca (Wallace J.McLean)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 15:48:33 -0400
Subject: [PGCanada] Public Domain Wizard (beta)
Message-ID: <6fac06a808.6a8086fac0@ncf.ca>



I have developed a Public Domain Wizard, in the form of an Excel 
spreadsheet, which should (if it works) be able to tell you whether a 
given book is copyrighted or public domain in Canada.

(There's one grey area it will warn you about if you encounter it, and 
one hellishly difficult sub-area of pre-1924 copyright law which I 
chose to ignore.)

Would anyone like to test-drive?





From mlockey at honson.com  Wed Aug 24 19:32:59 2005
From: mlockey at honson.com (Michael Lockey)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 22:32:59 -0400
Subject: [PGCanada] Public Domain Wizard (beta)
In-Reply-To: <6fac06a808.6a8086fac0@ncf.ca>
References: <6fac06a808.6a8086fac0@ncf.ca>
Message-ID: <430D2DDB.5010700@honson.com>

Wallace J.McLean wrote:

>I have developed a Public Domain Wizard, in the form of an Excel 
>spreadsheet, which should (if it works) be able to tell you whether a 
>given book is copyrighted or public domain in Canada.
>
>
>Would anyone like to test-drive?
>
Glad to.

Vasa


From hart at pglaf.org  Tue Aug 30 08:33:10 2005
From: hart at pglaf.org (Michael Hart)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 08:33:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PGCanada] Thanks for Project Gutenberg
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.60.0508300832360.31093@pglaf.org>



Here are a few of the thank you notes we have received for you
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From russell at flora.ca  Tue Aug 30 09:12:58 2005
From: russell at flora.ca (Russell McOrmond)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 12:12:58 -0400
Subject: [PGCanada] Public Domain Wizard (beta)
In-Reply-To: <6fac06a808.6a8086fac0@ncf.ca>
References: <6fac06a808.6a8086fac0@ncf.ca>
Message-ID: <4314858A.7030304@flora.ca>

Wallace J.McLean wrote:
> Would anyone like to test-drive?

   I'm curious to see if the specific macros will run in OpenOffice.org

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From ag737 at freenet.carleton.ca  Wed Aug 31 15:03:27 2005
From: ag737 at freenet.carleton.ca (Wallace J.McLean)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 18:03:27 -0400
Subject: [PGCanada] Stats
Message-ID: <2449d24c4a.24c4a2449d@ncf.ca>



I've been crunching some numbers on books by authors who died in 1950, 
and whose works thus became public domain in Canada on January 1, 
2001. This is a preliminary sample of what will eventually be a much 
larger sample of titles.

Of 1042 books by such authors, by 2001, only 3.4% were still "in 
print". ("In print", for the purpose of this experiment, was defined 
as a work that had been re-issued in the past year, or in any year 
thereafter, assuming, solely for the sake of argument, that a work 
that was re-issued in 2005 was still in economic use in every year 
before. My other model will, eventually, allow for works to come in 
and go out of print.)

Of that 3.4%, 1.0% were "normative" for lack of a better word; 
republications, translations, and adaptations that are, on their face, 
authorized by the copyright owner as one of the bundle of rights.

The other 2.4% were "special", including audio books and e-texts 
prepared for the blind and visually impaired, microform research 
editions, and public-domain-under-US-rules Project Gutenberg editions.

At the time of the deaths of the authors of these works, in 1950, only 
about 12% of their collected works were still in print. That's in year 
1 of posthumous copyright.

It only goes down from there.