January 2006 - dvdvol - lists.pglaf.org

User feedback from new CD/DVD creation system
by John Hagerson 20 Jan '06

20 Jan '06

Here is the text of an e-mail conversation I had with a retired gentleman who is very interested in e-books. -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Gill [mailto:gilljoseph1949@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 10:25 PM To: John Hagerson Subject: RE: Please confirm mailing address Thank You John, I tried to do as you suggested below but NO easy step by step instructions. It is sad that after so many volunteers and yourself work so hard for years that there is not a simple download program and simple update files download program. If you offered your text in an illustrated word file they could have FULL title and author listing and would be searchable as texts. I keep 70,000 e-texts books and papers on my computer and can search the ENTIRE collection for words or dates ect. I have my estates allocated to go to your organization and would like to see newer more user friendly technology at Gutenberg; it is available for individuals as well as institutions now. I was a prof at Harvard Uni and a director at Sothebys NYC and am now retired. If you care please see www.worldglobetrotters.com . The more you give the more people want. Thank you for all your wonderful giving work. Cordially Dr. Joseph Gill =========================================================== John Hagerson <j.hagerson(a)comcast.net> wrote: Dr. Gill, We have an option that is available to you if you have a high speed connection to the Internet. If you connect to http://snowy.arsc.alaska.edu/pgiso, you can query the Project Gutenberg library of electronic books based on criteria that you specify and create a CD or DVD image of electronic books. Once you specify the criteria, the system will compile the selected books into an ISO image and provide you with instructions for downloading the image to your PC. Then, you can copy the image to a blank CD or DVD and distribute copies to your friends. (If you just want to use the CD or DVD image yourself, you can search Google for a free program called IsoBuster which allows you to extract the contents of an ISO file collection to your hard disk.) Because we have yet to widely publicize this service, I am not sure how ready it is for a large number of people to try to use it simultaneously. In the meantime, however, if you are inclined, please test it out and send any feedback to the e-mail alias that is listed on the page. If you have any questions, I will do my best to answer them or I can ask others who are more knowledgeable than I. Thank you for your continued interest in Project Gutenberg. John Hagerson Project Gutenberg Volunteer -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Gill [mailto:gilljoseph1949@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 12:40 AM To: John Hagerson Subject: Re: Please confirm mailing address Hello John, I have your 3 year old DVD but would like to download your text and image files to update your collection on my computer. A GOOD IDEA Dr Joseph Gill John Hagerson <j.hagerson(a)comcast.net> wrote: Dr. Gill, Thank you for your interest in Project Gutenberg and a request for our DVD. Could you please provide your mailing address? For now, all I have is your name and Kona HI 96704. Thank you very much. John Hagerson (a Project Gutenberg volunteer) Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. Yahoo! Photos Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and well bind it!

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Re: [dvdvol] User feedback from new CD/DVD creation system
by Aaron Cannon 20 Jan '06

20 Jan '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I agree with you. If someone takes an interest, it will get done. Otherwise, it won't. I lack the time and the skill to implement such a system, so I'm not worried about it. :) If someone wants a way to downloadd the entire Gutenberg archive to their hard drive, I can give them some direction, but beyond that, they're on their own. :) Sincerely Aaron Cannon At 04:05 PM 1/18/2006, you wrote: >While I can appreciate the need to have the >latest updates to the Project Gutenberg >collection locally, I fear that us spending time >either writing an application to do this or >integrating an existing application to do this >(yum, the utility Google Pack uses, etc) would be a waste of time. > >Now, before the hoardes attack about my "waste >of time" comment, let me explain. > >It's not a trivial undertaking to maintain a >cross-platform application designed to maintain >an up-to-date Project Gutenberg catalog/library >on one's computer. I'm not saying it's insanely >difficult either. It could probably be done with >rsync and some other tools rolled together, with >someone spending a couple of weeks on it so it's >a polished product. I'm saying that our time is >better spent elsewhere at the moment. > >We're already stretched thin just trying to mail >out CDs and DVDs to people, and other volunteers >are tied up getting books into the PG library. >I'm just concerned that we're spreading >ourselves too thin (looking above, I see my rant >has gone on much longer then I've intended). >Let's concentrate our efforts on the activities >that give us the greatest possible return on our >effort. If we look into an update/management >application, and there's enough desire for it as >well as enough people to work on it, then we >should definately organize an effort to put it into place. > >I just want us to get the most bang for our buck. > >-brandon > >On 1/18/06, Aaron Cannon ><<mailto:cannona@fireantproductions.com> cannona(a)fireantproductions.com> wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >Do you know if he saw the link to the >FAQ? ><http://snowy.arsc.alaska.edu/pgiso/faq.html>http://snowy.arsc.alaska.edu/pgiso/faq.html >. It's a decent set of instructions; or perhaps >it's not. I wrote most of them so it's hard to >say for sure. :) Was there something specific he didn't understand? > >Sincerely >Aaron Cannon > > >At 08:43 AM 1/18/2006, you wrote: > >Here is the text of an e-mail conversation I had with a retired gentleman > >who is very interested in e-books. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Joseph Gill [mailto:gilljoseph1949@yahoo.com] > >Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 10:25 PM > >To: John Hagerson > >Subject: RE: Please confirm mailing address > > > >Thank You John, > > > >I tried to do as you suggested below but NO easy step by step instructions. > >It is sad that after so many volunteers and yourself work so hard for years > >that there is not a simple download program and simple update files download > >program. > > > >If you offered your text in an illustrated word file they could have FULL > >title and author listing and would be searchable as texts. I keep 70,000 > >e-texts books and papers on my computer and can search the ENTIRE collection > >for words or dates ect. I have my estates allocated to go to your > >organization and would like to see newer more user friendly technology at > >Gutenberg; it is available for individuals as well as institutions now. > > > >I was a prof at Harvard Uni and a director at Sotheby's NYC and am now > >retired. If you care please > see <http://www.worldglobetrotters.com>www.worldglobetrotters.com . > > > >The more you give the more people want. Thank you for all your wonderful > >giving work. > > > >Cordially Dr. Joseph Gill > >=========================================================== > > > >John Hagerson <<mailto:j.hagerson@comcast.net>j.hagerson(a)comcast.net> wrote: > >Dr. Gill, > > > >We have an option that is available to you if you have a high speed > >connection to the Internet. > > > >If you connect to > <http://snowy.arsc.alaska.edu/pgiso>http://snowy.arsc.alaska.edu/pgiso, > you can query the > >Project Gutenberg library of electronic books based on criteria that you > >specify and create a CD or DVD image of electronic books. Once you specify > >the criteria, the system will compile the selected books into an ISO image > >and provide you with instructions for downloading the image to your PC. > >Then, you can copy the image to a blank CD or DVD and distribute copies to > >your friends. (If you just want to use the CD or DVD image yourself, you can > >search Google for a free program called IsoBuster which allows you to > >extract the contents of an ISO file collection to your hard disk.) > > > >Because we have yet to widely publicize this service, I am not sure how > >ready it is for a large number of people to try to use it simultaneously. In > >the meantime, however, if you are inclined, please test it out and send any > >feedback to the e-mail alias that is listed on the page. > > > >If you have any questions, I will do my best to answer them or I can ask > >others who are more knowledgeable than I. > > > >Thank you for your continued interest in Project Gutenberg. > > > >John Hagerson > >Project Gutenberg Volunteer > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Joseph Gill [mailto:gilljoseph1949@yahoo.com] > >Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 12:40 AM > >To: John Hagerson > >Subject: Re: Please confirm mailing address > > > >Hello John, > > > >I have your 3 year old DVD but would like to download your text and image > >files to update your collection on my computer. A GOOD IDEA > > > >Dr Joseph Gill > > > >John Hagerson <<mailto:j.hagerson@comcast.net>j.hagerson(a)comcast.net> wrote: > >Dr. Gill, > > > >Thank you for your interest in Project Gutenberg and a request for our DVD. > > > >Could you please provide your mailing address? For now, all I have is your > >name and Kona HI 96704. > > > >Thank you very much. > > > >John Hagerson (a Project Gutenberg volunteer) > > > > > >Yahoo! Photos > >Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands > >ASAP. > > > > > >Yahoo! Photos Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover > >Photo Books. You design it and we'll bind it! > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >dvdvol mailing list > ><mailto:dvdvol@lists.pglaf.org>dvdvol(a)lists.pglaf.org > > http://lists.pglaf.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/dvdvol > > > >- -- >E-mail: <mailto:cannona@fireantproductions.com>cannona(a)fireantproductions.com >Skype: cannona >MSN Messenger: <mailto:cannona@hotmail.com>cannona(a)hotmail.com (Do not send >E-mail to the hotmail address.) > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) - GPGrelay v0.959 >Comment: Key available from all major key servers. > >iD8DBQFDzqsRI7J99hVZuJcRAoc6AKDz+pU8kOoX3hwtS5DqcBl8r9KTxACgnQ52 >oVUEd582V1ct9oqJmJDNFLA= >=P3NV >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >_______________________________________________ >dvdvol mailing list ><mailto:dvdvol@lists.pglaf.org>dvdvol(a)lists.pglaf.org >http://lists.pglaf.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/dvdvol > > > > > >-- >Brandon Galbraith >Email: <mailto:brandon.galbraith@gmail.com>brandon.galbraith(a)gmail.com >AIM: brandong00 >Voice: 630.400.6992 >_______________________________________________ >dvdvol mailing list >dvdvol(a)lists.pglaf.org >http://lists.pglaf.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/dvdvol - -- E-mail: cannona(a)fireantproductions.com Skype: cannona MSN Messenger: cannona(a)hotmail.com (Do not send E-mail to the hotmail address.) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) - GPGrelay v0.959 Comment: Key available from all major key servers. iD8DBQFD0DjCI7J99hVZuJcRAkQUAJ9PZ/+EXsTeslwlzGtB3UrSeiYXsACgl5WX 05Byi8eFgUhwB18QAOtKRPs= =9FIZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [dvdvol] Ad hoc DVD Creation System Info Request
by Aaron Cannon 17 Jan '06

17 Jan '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I believe it's production grade, or pretty dang close. Sincerely aaron Cannon At 10:33 AM 1/16/2006, you wrote: ><http://snowy.arsc.alaska.edu/pgiso>http://snowy.arsc.alaska.edu/pgiso >Not sure if it's considerd production-grade > >On 1/16/06, John Hagerson ><<mailto:j.hagerson@comcast.net>j.hagerson(a)comcast.net> wrote: >I have misplaced the link to the system that allows one to specify a >collection of PG materials to create a CD or DVD image. Please send it to >me. Is this system ready to be announced on the PG web site? > >Thank you. >John > > >_______________________________________________ >dvdvol mailing list ><mailto:dvdvol@lists.pglaf.org>dvdvol(a)lists.pglaf.org >http://lists.pglaf.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/dvdvol > > > > > >-- >Brandon Galbraith >Email: <mailto:brandon.galbraith@gmail.com>brandon.galbraith(a)gmail.com >AIM: brandong00 >Voice: 630.400.6992 >_______________________________________________ >dvdvol mailing list >dvdvol(a)lists.pglaf.org >http://lists.pglaf.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/dvdvol - -- E-mail: cannona(a)fireantproductions.com Skype: cannona MSN Messenger: cannona(a)hotmail.com (Do not send E-mail to the hotmail address.) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) - GPGrelay v0.959 Comment: Key available from all major key servers. iD8DBQFDzGpYI7J99hVZuJcRAtF1AJ4kihLvAa4dFYaaXVrtZgwIE+PsCwCfQW0G lwa0wMYuPptYlRdwJc4L7wc= =q6HF -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Ad hoc DVD Creation System Info Request
by John Hagerson 16 Jan '06

16 Jan '06

I have misplaced the link to the system that allows one to specify a collection of PG materials to create a CD or DVD image. Please send it to me. Is this system ready to be announced on the PG web site? Thank you. John

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people who have checked out requests
by Aaron Cannon 12 Jan '06

12 Jan '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The people who have requests checked out are Brandon, John, and Donald. Everyone else's were checked in. Sincerely Aaron Cannon - -- E-mail: cannona(a)fireantproductions.com Skype: cannona MSN Messenger: cannona(a)hotmail.com (Do not send E-mail to the hotmail address.) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) - GPGrelay v0.959 Comment: Key available from all major key servers. iD8DBQFDxbITI7J99hVZuJcRAq3YAJ9dfrQb1Uxr8v04SmatBR6mRCv3rgCfd4Eh zaMDcB25AKj/JQdsHFt30b0= =ytSK -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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system ready for prime time... I think
by Aaron Cannon 12 Jan '06

12 Jan '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello all. I believe that the request system is once again ready to go live. As I've mentioned previously, we switched things over to MySQL. This means that things will likely be more stable as far as data storage and retrieval is concerned, but it also means that we have to recreate the login info. To get access to the system, please send me an email with the e-mail address you would like to use on the system, and I will send you your password and the location of the request system. I haven't yet started accepting requests. I want to get the requests which were lost taken care of first. When you log in, remember that we are using data from when the system was at www.gutenberg.org. If you had requests checked out, you have probably already fulfilled them and checked them back in. If so, let me know which ones they are so I can move them into the completed queue. Please don't move them your selves, as this will cause an email to be sent to the person, telling them that their discs have been sent. If you haven't fulfilled the requests you checked out, then feel free to fulfill them and check them in as complete, or return them to the queue, as you see fit. If you have records of what requests you've completed since the request system was moved to snowy, please let me know what they are so we don't send discs to anyone who has already received them. Thanks! Sincerely Aaron Cannon P.S. The CSV and TXT generators don't yet work, but they should be up and running by late this evening. - -- E-mail: cannona(a)fireantproductions.com Skype: cannona MSN Messenger: cannona(a)hotmail.com (Do not send E-mail to the hotmail address.) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) - GPGrelay v0.959 Comment: Key available from all major key servers. iD8DBQFDxa0vI7J99hVZuJcRAm6YAJ4mmt/CYiEBLOLBX6dPoNyFrlICPACfb58e UEHFd4Ffp0Tgkri4/00tU+Y= =jzqj -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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another update
by Aaron Cannon 10 Jan '06

10 Jan '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello all. Things are progressing faster than I dared hope. The login, logout, view, and mod scripts are upgraded. This leaves only the script that lets you edit records, and the csv and txt generators. I hope to have us back online by Thursday. The sorting problems seen in the last version are fixed (undoubtedly because we're now using the sorting routines from MySQL instead of ones of my own design) and things seem to be working much faster. If you have any requests for features, now is the time to mention them. If you've suggested something in the past, feel free to ask again, as I have probably forgotten. Again, I'll keep you all posted. Sincerely Aaron Cannon - -- E-mail: cannona(a)fireantproductions.com Skype: cannona MSN Messenger: cannona(a)hotmail.com (Do not send E-mail to the hotmail address.) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) - GPGrelay v0.959 Comment: Key available from all major key servers. iD8DBQFDwzj3I7J99hVZuJcRAiNtAKC6Qw7kLgEsIsJrstEascr12v3o8ACg/da9 29WSyfN97ikUkK7pA/gWDmw= =lgqf -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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progress report
by Aaron Cannon 08 Jan '06

08 Jan '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello all. I just wanted to let you know that I've managed to import the old database into MySQL and have also just about finished with the script for allowing people to submit their requests. When I finish that, I'll start working on the scripts for logging on and off as a volunteer and viewing the status of requests. I'll keep you all posted, but so far, it's going well. Sincerely Aaron Cannon - -- E-mail: cannona(a)fireantproductions.com Skype: cannona MSN Messenger: cannona(a)hotmail.com (Do not send E-mail to the hotmail address.) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) - GPGrelay v0.959 Comment: Key available from all major key servers. iD8DBQFDwYhiI7J99hVZuJcRAk2zAJwJV2PBHOxPSH9+oyoYOWExEth6ngCfeRIn AucZ0sUuFfWz3zTyJgqbdBA= =KNnY -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [dvdvol] Any hope?
by Aaron Cannon 06 Jan '06

06 Jan '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello all. I have to apologize once again for my conspicuous absence. Things have been just crazy. However, I am back home finally, and I have already started work on version 2.0 of the request system which will employ MySQL. I will keep you all updated on its progress, but I will do everything I can to get it up and running as quickly as possible. My goal is by next week some time, but you know how objectives are, especially in programming. Thanks to everyone who looked at my bad code. In a way its a little reassuring to know that I wasn't the only one baffled by the errors. :) I'll keep you all posted like I said. Thanks. Sincerely Aaron Cannon At 12:50 AM 12/29/2005, you wrote: >John, > >I've looked at the Perl code, and couldn't find any reason for the >errors that are occuring to occur. I've asked a co-worker of mine to >take a look at it off-hours, and we're going to run the code in a >seperate environment to see if we can break it there. > >-brandon > >On 12/27/05, John Hagerson ><<mailto:j.hagerson@comcast.net>j.hagerson(a)comcast.net> wrote: >I don't mean to nag, but is there any hope for the requests system? > >I'm afraid that we have been down for so long that we will need a "grand >reopening" when we go back on line. > >John > > >_______________________________________________ >dvdvol mailing list ><mailto:dvdvol@lists.pglaf.org>dvdvol(a)lists.pglaf.org >http://lists.pglaf.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/dvdvol > > > > > >-- >Brandon Galbraith >Email: <mailto:brandon.galbraith@gmail.com>brandon.galbraith(a)gmail.com >AIM: brandong00 >Voice: 630.400.6992 >_______________________________________________ >dvdvol mailing list >dvdvol(a)lists.pglaf.org >http://lists.pglaf.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/dvdvol - -- E-mail: cannona(a)fireantproductions.com Skype: cannona MSN Messenger: cannona(a)hotmail.com (Do not send E-mail to the hotmail address.) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) - GPGrelay v0.959 Comment: Key available from all major key servers. iD8DBQFDvq5BI7J99hVZuJcRAjgqAJ4hFq4IqlnmkLTW3qmxRbpEzdqWcgCffKCh c9GhXejdHQTQsjxfhHixd+I= =LdOS -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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