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Project Gutenberg DVD Release Candidate now available for testing
by Aaron Cannon 13 Apr '10

13 Apr '10

Hi all. Finally, I have a release candidate of the new Gutenberg DVD available for testing. Currently, it is only available via BitTorrent. Please download and test, and let me know if you find any bugs. At this point, I'm not looking for suggestions on which new titles to add, but any other feedback is welcome and appreciated. I would not yet recommend distribution of this DVD image for any purpose other than testing. Please do not seed this torrent after April 30, because by then, we should have an official version available. This image is an .iso for a dvd-9, so you will either need a way to open or mount .iso files, or a dual layer DVD burner. You can download the torrent via the following magnet link: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:JB4PMPIXNTYMFCUZABAYYTX56JWQINPI or if your client doesn't speak magnet links, you can download the torrent file from: http://www.fireantproductions.com/pgdvd201004-rc1.torrent Thanks in advance for all the feedback. Aaron Cannon

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Re: Project Gutenberg DVD Release Candidate now available for testing
by Aaron Cannon 11 Apr '10

11 Apr '10

There was a problem with the first torrent I uploaded, so if you downloaded it yesterday, you may want to redownload. The magnet link should still work though. Thanks. Aaron

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Trouble e-mails 02
by Christa & Jay Toser 17 Feb '10

17 Feb '10

Hi All, I am Jay Toser from Fall River, WI For right now, I am kind of, the secretary for the DVD Project. I get a copy of the e-mails whenever someone writes to cd2010(a)pglaf.org I'm sending this boilerplate so anyone who gets a returned package, can contact the requester easily. You need to fill in parts of the letter to personalize it. When you get a package returned, please do a couple things. Log into your account on the DVD database. There is a link for "Requests You've Completed." You should be able to find the requester there. [I've got a lot in my database. I copy off the DVD database, and paste it into TextEdit. I can then use "Find" to see them quickly.] All the relevant data for the requester is there. Another note: I am still fulfilling requests posted from February 2009. And I am still getting packages returned that I mailed in June 2009. So the way I write things, try to take this great delay into account. To: <E-MAIL ADDRESS> Subject: Project Gutenberg DVD Dear <NAME AS LISTED IN THE ADDRESS> You may not even remember requesting a Gutenberg Project DVD (containing 17,300 free books) last year on <DATE THEY REQUESTED>. I processed that request on <DATE LISTED AS YOU COMPLETED> and mailed the DVD to you. Unfortunately, the package was returned to me this week by the <COUNTRY> Post Office. They say "<WHATEVER WAS ON THE ENVELOPE>." I mailed the package with exactly the address you entered on our web site: <COPY AND PASTE EXACTLY WHAT THEY ENTERED> I will handle your request as soon as you send an address the Post Office is more likely to deliver. You may e-mail the address directly to me, <NAME & E-MAIL ADDRESS> and I will complete your request. Please expect delivery in about a month (or longer -- any foreign mailing, takes some time to arrive). Hope this helps, <YOUR NAME> Below, not for inclusion in the above boilerplate: 1) Using the word "Dear" in "Dear <NAME AS LISTED IN THE ADDRESS>" can be misinterpreted. Although both Ann Landers and Miss Manners recommend that formal business letters begin with "Dear," this is not universally understood as a proper business salutation. Choose "Hi" if you feel more comfortable. Nine times out of ten, It does not matter if you use "Dear," or "Hi." My experience has been, sometimes the requestor assumes "Dear" indicates, the sender is the opposite gender to the requester. The e-mail response you get will clearly show what the requester assumes. Please do not take offense. Every single time I have gotten this kind of response, I have ALWAYS answered with another e-mail. I usually include information mentioning my wife. They get the message. My take on things is, the people who are well enough educated that they desire the books of Project Gutenberg; they are well enough educated to understand a mistake. A simple reminder to them -- and you may have a very good friend. For me this has been true regardless of country, or gender of the requestor. 2) <WHATEVER WAS ON THE ENVELOPE>. It is acceptable to e-mail "They have written something in a language I cannot read." OR "They wrote no reason for the return." OR "The marks from the Post Office were unreadable." Twice, I have gotten e-mails requesting photos of the envelope. You are under no obligation to do that. But me, I have the equipment to send images. In both cases, it was trouble with local (city) Post Offices. An alternate address to another city, worked in each case. 3) Your <NAME AND E-MAIL ADDRESS>. This IS NOT required. Yes, I use both. The reason is, I contact the Internet using a very obsolete computer (Quadra 950). Because of this, I am fairly immune to all the Viruses, Phishing, Trojans, Worms, Robots, Zombies, etc. out on the Internet. [Disadvantage, my e-mail & web access is really, really slow.] I do not fear giving out name and e-mail address. If you wish to restrict your privacy, please use cd2010(a)pglaf.org as the contact e-mail. You are free to use my name Jay Toser as well. The reason I release this information is, easily 2/3rd's of the world's population will not trust a Robot-like, anonymous e-mail. They will only trust a human name. Believe me, there is reason for this mistrust across the world. A human name is worth it's weight in gold. Use my name, if not yours. If you feel uncomfortable about using my True Name, then use my alias: Ivan Kalinin. (And no, that video is from 1972, not present day.) Yes I have learned enough of the world -- that it is better to talk (write, e-mail) person-to-person. At least, in 2/3rd's of the world. 4) "Please expect delivery in about a month (or longer -- any foreign mailing, takes some time to arrive)." You should adjust this information depending on the requester's country. My other message, "Trouble e-mails 01" will give you guidelines on how long it should really take to deliver the package. Do not over-promise, and under-deliver. Tell them, straight up, what to expect. For example: Iran will take six months, and there is a 50-50 chance they won't get the package. Truth is truth; and throughout the world, truth is appreciated. As I wrote in the previous message, WE ALL could use information about delivery times to other countries. Any experience you have would be valuable to this list. Hope this helps, Jay Toser=

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Trouble e-mails 01
by Christa & Jay Toser 13 Feb '10

13 Feb '10

Hi All, I am Jay Toser from Fall River, WI. For right now, I am the kind of, the secretary for the DVD Project. I get a copy of the e-mails whenever someone writes to cd2010(a)pglaf.org There are a number of STANDARD complaints that I receive. Enough complaints, that I have written a STANDARD reply. Actually, in the advertising business (my previous occupation), this is called a boilerplate. If you ever get a complaint such as this, here is my response: Complaint---- Sir, I requested you for E-book DVD.I think you received my request and mailed me the DVD pack before 30 days ago.But yet I do not get any CD pack in my hand though it had gone 30 days.So sir I requested you to take emergency step so that I can get these DVD. If any wrong address or any other problem happened I think you will inform me. your best regards Rashed Chittagong,Bangladesh Response---- I talked to the Post Master here, but she was not really helpful. Although she thought a package to <COUNTRY> should have arrived by now, her first advice was to wait another week or so. It really does take about six weeks for simple, small packages to get to <COUNTRY> from America. Your package may just have been unlucky. Please let me know if you don't get it by <EXACTLY TWO MONTHS>. I will send a new package. I am sorry for the delay, but I cannot control how the rest of the world works. Jay Toser user5013(a)aol.com Below, not for inclusion in the above boilerplate: The Political World is full of land mines. Any package to India takes about six weeks. This person is just worried that we never sent the package at all. That's it -- there is no hatred, there is just worry. Please, if you get a message such as this, respond as diplomatically as possible. Just as a couple Rules of Thumb: (assuming the person who mailed, lives in America) 1) Anything mailed inside North America (Mexico, Canada, America) should arrive within two weeks. If you get a complaint of non-delivery, -- apologize, and send another package. 2) Anything mailed outside North America to Europe (meaning the European Union) should arrive within four weeks. 3) Anything mailed elsewhere in the world -- TO A NON-REPRESSIVE GOVERNMENT, will take a minimum of six weeks. 4) Repressive Governments: Hey Folk, if you have information on any of these, I would wish you post it here!! Iran: 50-50 chance the package will be delivered at all. Time: Six months at a minimum. Vietnam: If the address is complete and correct, it will be delivered. Time: three months. If the address is wrong, 50-50 chance you will get the package returned. Palestinian Territories: Will be delivered: Time: Four months. Yemen: Will never get there. As always, If you get a complaint of non-delivery -- and it seems like the package REALLY DID get lost in the mail; Apologize, and send a duplicate package. Hope this helps. Jay Toser

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Praise
by Christa & Jay Toser 13 Feb '10

13 Feb '10

Here's a forwarded e-mail from Jayanth in India who got our discs. This is why I volunteer: Dear Christa And Jay, I hope this email finds you all in the best spirits. I wish all of you and your family (and the extended project gutenberg family) all the best in life. I would like to communicate to you that I have indeed recieved the DVDs sent out by you. No amount of words or expressions may express the gratitude that I feel for the Privilege you have bestowed upon me. This DVD was ordered by me in a time when I had no access to the facilities that may enable me to make something of myself, but By the Good Lord's grace, I am in a better position now. I thank you anyway for taking time out of your lives to send me these DVDs. They work fine and I am going to distribute copies of these to almost everyone I know. In today's world, what we need is the instruction of the collective knowledge of the Human species, to help us learn and evolve. It is surely very sad to note that not many of the younger generation like to read, but I do sincerely hope that Project Gutenberg and all the wonderful volunteers associated with it will make a difference in this World. As for these DVDs, you have already made a huge difference in my World. And I thank You For it.This message of thanks is for whoever took out the time to put in effort into Project Gutenberg, including the Distributed Proofreaders. I do wish that my financial situation was better so I could have contributed monetarily to your organization. This thing you people are doing is no less than what the noblest charities do. So, With all my Heart I Sincerely Thank You all For This Incredible Gift. With Warm Regards, Jayanth Kumar A K Hyderabad, India.

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DVD Volunteers, where is everyone?
by Johnnie CD 13 Feb '10

13 Feb '10

Hello all, I was just wondering how many folks out their belong to this list and actively read the email accounts that are listed. I hear we used to have a bunch of folks that were willing to help send out CDs and DVDs but I have not had the occasion to chat with most of you. We would love to hear from you again. We still have a number of request in the queue that we have not been able to fill yet and any assistance you guys feel like providing would be much appreciated. Rumor is that an updated edition of the DVD is on the way so it would be a great time to clear out any dusty copies of the current editions and get them in the hands of a few folks without reliable internet access. Of course when the new copy is out we will need folks to help with distribution if they decide to continue using the torrent system as one of the distribution methods. If some little thing is preventing you from helping out let us know so we can all work to make a better system. Of course if other interest have consumes all of your time I understand that as well. I Just want to let everyone know that we do still need your assistance if you have a few moment to help out while it is cold enough to keep most of us inside for a few more weeks. If you have a particular area that you like to work with please let us know so we can leave those request for you as we work to fill the other request in the system. If you guys are still out their I would love to hear from you! Johnnie

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adding the new iso to an ftp site
by Aaron Cannon 01 Sep '06

01 Sep '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Greg. The new ISO is currently only available via bittorrent and http. However, as you undoubtedly know, http can be quite unreliable for files of that size. So, I'm wondering if you would be able to add the ISO to some ftp sites as well. Are you planning on adding the new ISO to the gutenberg collection like we did with the 10K dvd? Sincerely Aaron Cannon - -- Skype: cannona MSN/Windows Messenger: cannona(a)hotmail.com (don't send email to the hotmail address.) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32) - GPGrelay v0.959 Comment: Key available from all major key servers. iD8DBQFE7y/BI7J99hVZuJcRAuKCAKD6KPVUoOYNNKHcZqZV0lTYmYCb0gCggh3V 1jocoT8+JYJPGrGglN8D+rg= =h+7l -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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obtaining the new image
by Aaron Cannon 23 Jul '06

23 Jul '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello all. If any of you are not able to download and burn our new image because you are on dial up, drop me an email and I'll send you a copy of the new image in the mail tomorrow. If you aren't able to download because you don't know how or can't get it to work, I am happy to either send you one in the mail as well, or I would also be willing to talk to you over the phone and walk you through it. I have good long distance service, so I'm even willing to do this if you live outside the US. If you want the disc by mail, send me your address. Or if you prefer the phone call, send me your phone number and a good time to call. Thanks! Sincerely Aaron Cannon - -- Skype: cannona MSN/Windows Messenger: cannona(a)hotmail.com (don't send email to the hotmail address.) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32) - GPGrelay v0.959 Comment: Key available from all major key servers. iD8DBQFEukbyI7J99hVZuJcRAt2dAJ9x2VLhC7QFspZZz/2qHEu95I6NMgCfacTZ Oa4ruE5dPBKPip5GBakzZTA= =VcWb -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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final DVD up on the torrent tracker, with fixes
by Aaron Cannon 15 Jul '06

15 Jul '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello all. As you know, we announced a DVD a few days ago and said that it was ready. Well, turns out that it was missing several hundred files. This has been fixed,and you can now download the true final version from http://snowy.arsc.alaska.edu:6969 . Thanks Greg for getting this done, and sorry for any inconvenience that this might have caused anyone. Sincerely Aaron Cannon -- Skype: cannona MSN/Windows Messenger: cannona(a)hotmail.com (don't send email to the hotmail address.) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32) - GPGrelay v0.959 Comment: Key available from all major key servers. iD8DBQFEuPJLI7J99hVZuJcRAqinAKCBTSpqojhT9Vq+mRM2cOGiXqvUAACg+v0X y/7To5652Hj09weFlCpwxlA= =8F32 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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new dvd image
by Aaron Cannon 09 Jul '06

09 Jul '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello all. The new dvd image is available as a torrent. http://snowy.arsc.alaska.edu:6969 . My email is once again doing strange things, so I seem to only be able to send, but not receive. However, it doesn't seem to be bouncing, so if you sent me something, hopefully I'll get it eventually, but perhaps not. Sincerely Aaron Cannon - -- Skype: cannona MSN/Windows Messenger: cannona(a)hotmail.com (don't send email to the hotmail address.) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32) - GPGrelay v0.959 Comment: Key available from all major key servers. iD8DBQFEsPGlI7J99hVZuJcRAivqAJ41UaZW0AFrqHLRRWxKtVXPJgozRQCg0x51 2X5uERI+EPFoCQ398haa6jw= =eh2z -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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