April 2006 - gutvol-d - lists.pglaf.org

PG texts in South Africa
by Andrew Sly 05 May '06

05 May '06

Here's another example of PG texts being used. http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=961

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cdproject seeks CD/DVD stamp
by Greg Newby 27 Apr '06

27 Apr '06

Does anyone have the time and inclination to research and procure an ink stamp for our CD and DVD giveaways? The giveaway details are here: http://www.gutenberg.org/cdproject We've been hand-lettering the CD/DVD discs (or just sending them blank...using writable media). I thought a simple rubber stamp and ink pad (or self-stamping) would look a little better. Getting ink that would print properly (not smear or run) on a DVD might be difficult. Aaron, who is our CD/DVD giveaway ringmaster, computed some sizes and text ideas: > I think a stamp that had our web address, said "Project Gutenberg > free EBook DVD," and also perhaps said something to the effect of > "copy, share, enjoy," would be ideal. > > We have a few options for the stamp size: > 1.25x1.25" > 1x2" > .75x2.25" > .5x2.5" Such a stamp would be much, much cheaper than pre-printed blank CD or DVD media or other options. If anyone has the time and inclination to work on a design, find out where such stamps are easily acquired, and see about the ink issues, please do!! Thanks!!! -- Greg

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Re: [gutvol-d] cdproject seeks CD/DVD stamp
by John Hagerson 27 Apr '06

27 Apr '06

I may be mistaken, but I thought I remember reading that an adhesive label shortens the useful life of the media. I found some information through Google Answers. StazOn is an ink pad with solvent-based ink. It claims to dry on plastic, metal, and glass. These ink pads are available in a number of colors. They also sell a cleaning solution to remove the ink from the stamp. You can see this at http://www.blockheadstamps.com/ink_stazon.html I have no experience with this product or with this web site. It might be prudent to buy one pad and try it before making a more significant investment. John Hagerson -----Original Message----- From: gutvol-d-bounces(a)lists.pglaf.org [mailto:gutvol-d-bounces@lists.pglaf.org] On Behalf Of Gardner Buchanan Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 3:40 PM To: Project Gutenberg Volunteer Discussion Subject: RE: [gutvol-d] cdproject seeks CD/DVD stamp I would recommend looking into a label-based approach. I think the plain white laser printer labels go for $0.05 per unit in quantity - amazingly expensive given what they are, but probably economical. There are Word templates and many utilities for designing to these label layouts. The solution is scalable, in the sense than any volunteer can buy a box of labels, box of CDs, download the CD image and the label design and then burn, print and label nice looking final CDs/DVDs. See you, Gardner Buchanan Adobe Systems Canada Office: +1 613 940 3842 Mobile: +1 613 884 7940

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Re: [gutvol-d] Sponsors
by John Hagerson 26 Apr '06

26 Apr '06

In the United States, National Public Radio has run into the slippery slope of providing "underwriting credits" in return for sponsorships. NPR is tax exempt, listener sponsored (NPR stations beg periodically), and has a government-mandated educational mission. "Underwriting credits" started small and were focused on a particular program. "Funding for religion coverage on 'All Things Considered' was provided by the Peter Q. and Frieda P. Jones foundation." (I made that one up.) However, then the individual radio stations started to get into the act. Now, the format for many programs is to halt at 20 minutes past the hour and 20 minutes to the hour for the equivalent of a bunch of commercials. On my NPR station, they are all read by the "serious" NPR announcer, but that too may change. Marcello, I don't believe that your reference to unrelated business income tax (UBIT) would apply to us even if we did sell advertising space. Most cases of UBIT that I am familiar with are when a not-for-profit engages in a for profit business on the side. For example, if a church runs a bookstore, then they would pay UBIT on the profits from the bookstore because selling books is not part of their mission as a church. I am aware of a case where a church owns a building and meets on the second floor while the ground floor houses a grocery store. The rent that they receive from the grocery store is subject to UBIT. However, I too am not a lawyer (nor do I play one on TV). John Hagerson -----Original Message----- From: gutvol-d-bounces(a)lists.pglaf.org [mailto:gutvol-d-bounces@lists.pglaf.org] On Behalf Of Greg Newby Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 12:28 AM To: Project Gutenberg Volunteer Discussion Subject: Re: [gutvol-d] Sponsors Somehow I missed this one earlier: On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 06:34:39PM +0100, Marcello Perathoner wrote: > Greg Newby wrote: > > >No, we can't sell ad space at all. Neither PGLAF, nor ibiblio. > > I'm not sure this is true: It's against iBiblio's rules. It's outside of PGLAF's mission. It probably is legal, but that wasn't what I mean't by "can't." -- Greg > "501 (b) Tax on unrelated business income and certain other activities > An organization exempt from taxation under subsection (a) shall be > subject to tax to the extent provided in parts II, III, and VI of this > subchapter, but (notwithstanding parts II, III, and VI of this > subchapter) shall be considered an organization exempt from income taxes > for the purpose of any law which refers to organizations exempt from > income taxes." > > http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode26/usc_sec_26_00000501----000-. html > > IANAL but this means to me that we would have to pay taxes on the ad > revenues, but selling ads would not endanger our non-profit status. > > > But the more interesting question is: if we just display standard "thank > you" notices for donations received, without letting the donor choose > the text, would this be considered "selling ads" or just being nice to > our donors? > > > > -- > Marcello Perathoner > webmaster(a)gutenberg.org _______________________________________________ gutvol-d mailing list gutvol-d(a)lists.pglaf.org http://lists.pglaf.org/listinfo.cgi/gutvol-d

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Washington Post Article?
by Marcello Perathoner 25 Apr '06

25 Apr '06

You need an account to access this. Can anybody tell what it is about? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/22/AR200604220… -- Marcello Perathoner webmaster(a)gutenberg.org

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Candidate books for PG?
by Al Haines (shaw) 25 Apr '06

25 Apr '06

A thrift store near me has a 24-volume set of "Modern Business" books, written by various authors, published by the Alexander Hamilton Institute, all copyright dates pre-1923. According to a Google search, the Institute appears to still exist. The books don't seem to be in PG. Are such books suitable candidates for PG, or are they too out of date? Al

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Sponsors
by Marcello Perathoner 24 Apr '06

24 Apr '06

From a different thread: >> they're looking for "sponsors", suggesting "an annual fee of $1000", >> or even all the way up to $350,000, which buys you a "thank you" from >> within the browser of the one million of their clients you've >> sponsored... I don't know about their millions of clients but the PG website is now ranked top 3000 at alexa.com and serving ~250K pages to ~50K hosts a day. We have a Google page-rank of 8. To get that spammers would feed their mothers to the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal. We could put an ad space at the top of every page. I'm thinking of text-only ads, no distracting images. We could cycle ads like this: Did you know that you can help producing ebooks investing just ten minutes a day? www.pgdp.net Sponsor PG and get your web site mentioned here. See: www.gutenberg.org/fundraising/sponsoring We thank the Curl Up and Dye hair parlor for their kind gift of $1000. www.curl-up-and-dye.com Do we want to do this? And what rules should we put in place? Is selling ads compatible with the non-for-profit status? Anybody out there with an internet marketing background to figure out what we could "charge" for this ad space? -- Marcello Perathoner webmaster(a)gutenberg.org

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Errors when uploading submissions
by D Garcia 22 Apr '06

22 Apr '06

Anyone else getting this message when trying to submit an ebook? I did have a report of one other DP volunteer also getting this, it smells of a possible disk space issue. ZIP_TESTS=unzip -t output: File /home/spool/XXXXXX.zip does not exist! (where XXX is the filename of the attempted upload) David

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Re: [gweekly] PT1b Weekly Project Gutenberg Newsletter
by Dave Fawthrop 19 Apr '06

19 Apr '06

On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 08:59:54 -0700 (PDT), Michael Hart <hart(a)pglaf.org> wrote: | |General Catalog of Old Books and Authors | |http://www.kingkong.demon.co.uk/ngcoba/ngcoba.htm | |which now indexes 24,000 books available free online, including all |PG(US) & PG(Aus)'s books, along with some basic date information |about them and their authors where you can find more. | |For information please contact Philip Harper |<webmaster AT kingkong.demon.co.uk> Plus many books not available on line, a good place to search for books by specific authors who you are interested in. -- Dave Fawthrop <dave hyphenologist co uk> "Intelligent Design?" my knees say *not*. "Intelligent Design?" my back says *not*. More like "Incompetent design". Sig (C) Copyright Public Domain

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Another use of PG texts
by Tony Baechler 18 Apr '06

18 Apr '06

I don't know anything other than what it says below. I looked at nbp.org and it doesn't say that PG texts are being used. It also doesn't give titles. I don't think there is a trademark violation since they are reformatting the files but it's interesting that they are producing their own DVD. I never personally had a problem with reading PG plain text books and I'm blind. I don't really see the point in the DVD, especially not for $39 US. They also have two CD sets, one for kids and one of British literature. I didn't look at them. National Braille press http://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/publications/index.html will carry Super Dvd #1, a dvd containing 3,626 books, 646 plays, 496 magazines and 2,753 stories. All this material is available in the public domain on the Internet, but Richard Seltzer http://www.samizdat.com/ has in many cases reformatted it for clear and simple text access. The dvd costs $39, and a listing of its contents is at http://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/DVD1.html

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