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Re: [gutvol-d] branko
by Bowerbird＠aol.com 10 Apr '06

10 Apr '06

jon said: > What changes did Branko make to your comment? well, i usually don't respond to jon noring on this listserve, because noring, on his own listserve, censors michael hart. (interesting how one censor steps up to defend another...) but i'll make an exception in this case to give this answer: you don't know what was changed, do you? and isn't that the way that it _always_ is when someone rewrites history? *** josh said: > In other words, leave DP out of it. > We don't want to get involved. i don't blame you! i wouldn't wanna be involved with someone rewriting history either... but nonetheless, there branko is, touting connections to d.p. and p.g., and then redoing my blog comments. -bowerbird

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bowerbird is totally unrelated to p.g. and d.p.
by Bowerbird＠aol.com 10 Apr '06

10 Apr '06

josh said: > You've claimed connections to PG and DP both in the past. nope. i am totally unrelated to both, thank you very much. i love project gutenberg -- well, mostly michael hart -- as _the_ premiere cyberlibrary and shining example of unlimited distribution, and i hope that some of my work helps to further the cause. i'm also happy to give p.g. my gift of constructive criticism. but i'm not connected to p.g. nothing i say or do should reflect positively or negatively on project gutenberg, not in the slightest way, shape, or form... i also respect distributed proofreaders greatly -- well, the brainstorm (and hard work) of charlez franks that created a great example of distributed collaboration, as well as the _many_ volunteers who give so willingly and generously of their time and energy to the cause -- and i'd be happy to give my gift of constructive criticism to d.p. as well, but d.p. doesn't seem to want it much. :+) further, nothing i say or do should reflect on d.p. either. i'm sure everyone knew this -- my independence is clear -- but i'm quite happy to repeat it out loud just for the record... indeed, if i didn't think larger issues were at stake here -- including building infrastructure for our cyberlibrary and the best practices workflow for digitizing p-books -- i wouldn't bother giving my gift of constructive criticism here and other places in cyberspace. but there is a need... -bowerbird

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re: [gutvol-d] branko
by Joshua Hutchinson 10 Apr '06

10 Apr '06

> ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bowerbird(a)aol.com > > greg said: > > Branko is a lovely fellow and active volunteer. But no, he doesn't > > speak for PG or DP. > > nobody ever said he did. no volunteer does. > > but his actions now certainly reflect -- badly -- > on both d.p. and p.g., since he has in the past > touted his alignment rather obviously, having > written entries about d.p. and p.g. at teleread > and various other places around cyberspace. You've claimed connections to PG and DP both in the past. You reflect badly (in my opinion) on both organizations. But just because you spout flaming idiocy on a regular basis, it isn't PG or DP's place to "silence" or dictate your behavior on a completely unrelated forum like TeleRead's blog. The most we could do is silence or dictate behavior here or on DP's forums. This isn't to say Banko is or is not fully justified in what he edited. I don't know the circumstances nor do I care, since TeleRead is NOT AFFLIATED with PG or DP and therefore what they decide to do is their own business. Josh

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re: [gutvol-d] branko
by Bowerbird＠aol.com 10 Apr '06

10 Apr '06

josh said: > Why would things happening on an unrelated website > concern conversations on DP? why? because the same parties are involved! and because branko represents himself over there on the teleread blog as being closely related to distributed proofreaders _and_ a volunteer with project gutenberg. is it in the best interest of these entities to have someone associated with them be responsible for editing writing from someone against the explicit stated will of that writer? i would think not... my guess is that it would send _shivers_ down the spine of michael hart to have project gutenberg being portrayed as big brother rewriting the history books. talk about being "untrustworthy"! we are on a very slippery slope here, and remember, it always starts with something "innocuous", which people encourage you to "sweep under the rug" as "unimportant". -bowerbird

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re: [gutvol-d] branko
by Joshua Hutchinson 10 Apr '06

10 Apr '06

> ----- Original Message ----- > > my guess is that it would send _shivers_ > down the spine of michael hart to have > project gutenberg being portrayed as > big brother rewriting the history books. > talk about being "untrustworthy"! > What sends shivers down my spine is that PG or DP could have any say whatsoever in how an unrelated entity runs their business. Luckily, it does not. Editing of your content is beside the point in this case. What I object to is the insinuation/demand that PG/DP take some sort of active role in someone else's business. I know I'd be extremely upset if TeleRead tried to dictate to me what I can or cannot do on DP. I can only assume they'd be equally offended if I tried to boss them around. In other words, leave DP out of it. We don't want to get involved. Josh

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Re: [gutvol-d] branko
by Joshua Hutchinson 10 Apr '06

10 Apr '06

> ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bowerbird(a)aol.com > > branko, i'm gonna tell you one more time > not to edit my posts over on the teleread blog. > > if you continue, i'll have to come over to the > d.p. forums and have a word with you there. > Why would things happening on an unrelated website concern conversations on DP? That's like arguing with your wife and then yelling at your kids because you're upset. Josh

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branko
by Bowerbird＠aol.com 10 Apr '06

10 Apr '06

branko, i'm gonna tell you one more time not to edit my posts over on the teleread blog. if you continue, i'll have to come over to the d.p. forums and have a word with you there. -bowerbird

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using color to highlight suspicious segments
by Bowerbird＠aol.com 09 Apr '06

09 Apr '06

hey, today is my "d.p. birthday"! :+) it's been 3 years now. and 32 pages, meaning i am averaging just under 11 pages per year... woohoo! ;+) *** roger frank, over on the d.p. forums, said: > My example is this: in a recent book with a character "Ann" > there was one instance of "Ana" that I missed. The first thing > I did was to write code that goes through every word in the book, > checks them against a dictionary, finds the singletons or doubletons, > and then does an edit-distance check on those words against > every word used in the book. In this case, that code finds "Ana" once > and "Ann" many times. It's almost certainly an error that > needs to be flagged. But how? you might be overthinking (and overprogramming) this... a simple ascii-based sort of the unique words in the book (with occurrence counts) can quickly and easily be generated, and a perusal skim of that will reveal instances like this one... use an ascii sort, so that capitalized forms will sort separately: > Ana -- 1 ********** (asterisk entities with few occurrences) > And -- 6 > Ann -- 22 > Apple -- 2 ********** > Ben -- 86 you'll also find that pulling out all _names_ is a good idea; "anything capitalized mid-sentence" is a working definition. not only will that help you sort out the names very quickly, but it will identify those pesky mid-sentence capitalizations that can happen when an "i" was incorrectly upper-cased... > Since I go through the whole book anyway > a paragraph at a time before sending it to PPV, > I'm thinking why can't I have that error and indeed > any suspicious situation flagged in the file I review? > And what better way is there than to use color? > So as I go through the book a page at a time > I might use one color for questionable one-off errors > (like "Ana" for "Ann"), another color for apparent quote mark > mismatches, another for spelling suspects, and so forth. > So this idea is half-baked at best, but I'm going to explore it. it's not a half-baked idea. it works quite wonderfully for me... the one thing i'd suggest is that you build this into a program that lets you make the corrections right away, inside of itself, rather than doing the display via .html and then having to go to a separate program to do the required editing... extra points if your program can analyze the list created above and wisk you to the very place where the single "ann" is located, complete with the scan placed next to it for a quick evaluation... > If I'm crazy, tell me now. > If it might be worthwhile, I'd like to know. Thanks. you're not crazy. in fact, you're smarter than the average bear. -bowerbird

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Time's Man of the Millennium
by Michael Hart 09 Apr '06

09 Apr '06

I'm looking for a copy or two of this particular Time magazine to keep in our Project Gutenberg archives, if anyone should be willing to part with a copy or finds one out there. Thanks!!! Michael

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[Fwd: You're on PC World's "101 Fabulous Freebies" list!]
by Marcello Perathoner 06 Apr '06

06 Apr '06

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