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Re: [gutvol-d] Librivox audio files
by Joshua Hutchinson 17 Aug '06

17 Aug '06

Really? In my experience, the only thing we've learned from audio files is that the fastest way to start a flame war on gutvol-d is to post a whole bunch of audio files of PG texts in new numbers! :) Seriously, since these texts are specifically read from PG texts, posting them in a new number seems a waste to me, but I'm willing to listen to arguments for why that should be. JHutch > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew Sly" <sly(a)victoria.tc.ca> > To: "Project Gutenberg Volunteer Discussion" <gutvol-d(a)pglaf.org> > Subject: Re: [gutvol-d] Librivox audio files > Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 14:18:04 -0700 (PDT) > > > > I believe that experience has shown that, in a case such as > you mention below, it would work better to have an audio > book posted under a new number. > > > Andrew > > On Wed, 16 Aug 2006, Joshua Hutchinson wrote: > > > I remember discussing this before, but I can't remember what the final word > > on it was. > > > > Librivox (www.librivox.org) has quite a few audio readings taken from our > > texts. They are released to the public domain (no copyright on them at all). > > > > http://librivox.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=881&sid=b24c8b14c49472aab8f7f410a… > > > > The individual audio book pages on www.archive.org links to this CC Public > > Domain notice: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/publicdomain/ > > > > My question is this: > > > > Do we need to run a separete clearance request before posting audio files > > under the PG text number they came from? > > > > For example, if I grabbed Dorothy and the Wizard in Oz > > (http://librivox.org/dorothy-and-the-wizard-in-oz-by-l-frank-baum/) and with > > David reposted it under our etext #420 (http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/420) > > do I need to first get a new clearance? (I'm planing on redoing the text as > > a TEI master at the same time, so we'll get TEI and PDF along with the > > existing file formats). > > > > Thanks, > > Josh > _______________________________________________ > gutvol-d mailing list > gutvol-d(a)lists.pglaf.org > http://lists.pglaf.org/listinfo.cgi/gutvol-d >

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re: [gutvol-d] New "Alice"
by Bowerbird＠aol.com 16 Aug '06

16 Aug '06

michael said: > hasn't alice11 already received several makeovers, > thus creating the higher numbered editions? i'm talking about e-text #11. however many makeovers it might have had has not been sufficient... -bowerbird

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Librivox audio files
by Joshua Hutchinson 16 Aug '06

16 Aug '06

I remember discussing this before, but I can't remember what the final word on it was. Librivox (www.librivox.org) has quite a few audio readings taken from our texts. They are released to the public domain (no copyright on them at all). http://librivox.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=881&sid=b24c8b14c49472aab8f7f410a… The individual audio book pages on www.archive.org links to this CC Public Domain notice: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/publicdomain/ My question is this: Do we need to run a separete clearance request before posting audio files under the PG text number they came from? For example, if I grabbed Dorothy and the Wizard in Oz (http://librivox.org/dorothy-and-the-wizard-in-oz-by-l-frank-baum/) and with David reposted it under our etext #420 (http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/420) do I need to first get a new clearance? (I'm planing on redoing the text as a TEI master at the same time, so we'll get TEI and PDF along with the existing file formats). Thanks, Josh PS Greg, can you run by the copyright clearances and clear my "special cases"? I've got 40 books ready to post from bahai.reference.org as soon as the clearances are approved. :)

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Re: [gutvol-d] Re: Search by subject for ebooks?
by Joshua Hutchinson 16 Aug '06

16 Aug '06

> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Fawthrop" <hyphen(a)hyphenologist.co.uk> > > Which happens quite often in the real world. My local library catalogues > Jean Auel's, Earth's Children books > http://www.geocities.com/auelpage/auel.html as Science Fiction :-( > IMO Would be better Historical Fiction, or Historical Fantasy, or Fantasy Actually, the idea that any one woman could invent so many fundamental, society shifting things in the course of a couple years ... that *is* science fiction. Stone-age science fiction, but science fiction. (Add in the literary porn aspects and you can see why every nerd in high school read those books cover to cover!) ;) Josh

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Re: [gutvol-d] Re: Search by subject for ebooks?
by Wallace J.McLean 16 Aug '06

16 Aug '06

----- Original Message ----- >From Kevin Handy <kth(a)srv.net> Date Tue, 15 Aug 2006 15:22:58 -0600 To Project Gutenberg Volunteer Discussion <gutvol-d(a)lists.pglaf.org> Subject Re: [gutvol-d] Re: Search by subject for ebooks? > Don't forget that some books will fit under multiple categories. > Think along the lines of "The Klingon Singing Cook Book." I > don't know if such a thing exists, but you get the idea. Which any decent library already takes into account when cataloguing, which is why it would be easiest to catalogue under any and all pre- existing catalogue headings as given in major national library catalogues like LOC, AMICUS, British libraries, etc., etc., etc., unless, of course, there is a patently wrong catalogue entry. (That happens.)

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Re: [gutvol-d] New "Alice"
by Joshua Hutchinson 16 Aug '06

16 Aug '06

Alice is the 11th book in the collection. http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/11 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Hart" <hart(a)pglaf.org> > To: gbnewby(a)pglaf.org, "Project Gutenberg Volunteer Discussion" <gutvol-d(a)lists.pglaf.org> > Subject: Re: [gutvol-d] New "Alice" > Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 08:38:40 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > hasn't alice11 already received several makeovers, > thus creating the higher numbered editions? > > Or is this a different #11 you are referring to? > > > On Tue, 15 Aug 2006, Greg Newby wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 03:05:13PM -0400, Bowerbird(a)aol.com wrote: > >> > >> i do love me the handwritten. > >> > >> while speaking of alice, though, > >> #11 needs an extreme makeover. > >> > >> i do have a z.m.l. version, with > >> all of its auxiliary versions too, > >> if you want it... > > > > I think I already said "yes," to this. Send it in! > > -- Greg > > _______________________________________________ > > gutvol-d mailing list > > gutvol-d(a)lists.pglaf.org > > http://lists.pglaf.org/listinfo.cgi/gutvol-d > > > _______________________________________________ > gutvol-d mailing list > gutvol-d(a)lists.pglaf.org > http://lists.pglaf.org/listinfo.cgi/gutvol-d >

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re: [gutvol-d] New "Alice"
by Bowerbird＠aol.com 16 Aug '06

16 Aug '06

i do love me the handwritten. while speaking of alice, though, #11 needs an extreme makeover. i do have a z.m.l. version, with all of its auxiliary versions too, if you want it... -bowerbird

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re: [gutvol-d] Search by subject for ebooks?
by Bowerbird＠aol.com 12 Aug '06

12 Aug '06

as i was saying, volunteers are wonderful! and a catalog would be mucho fantastico! and we can probably set up some kind of a system for volunteers to create a catalog! and who doesn't love a merry-go-round? whee! whee! -bowerbird p.s. watch me walkabout all funny when i get off the thing because i'm so _dizzy_...

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Search by subject for ebooks?
by Jared Buck 12 Aug '06

12 Aug '06

Hey, would there be any way we could be able to create a system for searching by subject matter for books? I have a mind to create a CD of books about and by native american indians for a girl i really like and the search mechanism is just not robust enough, searching full text takes too much time either. Being able to enter a single term under subject should be able to bring up a whole list of books related to that subject matter. Like, searching for science fiction should bring up a list of books that ARE science fiction, not just books with the words "science fiction" in the title or in the text. Jared

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Re: [gutvol-d] google releases some cool data
by Bowerbird＠aol.com 08 Aug '06

08 Aug '06

dave said: > The book of ungrammatical, incomprehensible American Expressions? actually, the phrase started out as engrish in a video-game; after which it took on a life of its own, as an internet meme. (precisely like you did, many people got a big laugh out of it.) i googled "all your base are belong to us" -- the exact phrase -- and got 956,000 hits on it, to give you an idea of its spread... of course, most versions are now variations, like this one was. ("are belong to us" returns 2,390,000 google hits.) > I doubt it get past a crawl however much money Google throw at it. i think everybody's opinion on this topic is firmly on the record now... -bowerbird

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