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Re: [gutvol-d] Copyright to 1909
by Wallace J.McLean 16 Sep '06

16 Sep '06

Jon Ingram writes: > Yes. The move from life+50 to life+70 in the UK was retroactive, and > brought 20 years worth of material back into the copy-restricted realm > from the public domain. Which provisions of the UK Act operate to make the term retroactive? By my reading of the provisions of the Act which I have cited, it expressly does NOT make it retroactive. > Note, however, that if a non-UK work becomes public domain in its > country of origin, then UK law states that it is also public domain in > the UK... a common provision in copyright law in many countries, In the EU, yes. "The rule of the lesser term." It's mandated by the EU's garbage copyright directive, as a pressure tactic to try and get the rest of the world to "harmonize". It's not all that common in the non-EU countries I've looked at, though.

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have a nice weekend
by Bowerbird＠aol.com 16 Sep '06

16 Sep '06

oh, this is rich. > http://www.pgdp.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=22216&start=0 it's a discussion over at distributed proofreaders about repurposing digitizations found elsewhere on the web into the d.p. workflow, jumpstarting the proofing process with a text that has already received a good amount of proofing. the catch? the other digitizations have linebreaks removed, making proofing more difficult for d.p. people... kind of ironic, isn't it? anyway, have a nice weekend! :+) -bowerbird

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Copyright to 1909
by Norm Wolcott 15 Sep '06

15 Sep '06

I believe PG has been clearing books published pre 1923, even if published in London. Now I read about another case saying all books pre 1909 may be free of copyrigiht. I do not know if this will increase or decrease the pool of books. I believe that all books published after 1923 in England are still subject to copyright unless they fall into the 75 year death rule. What is the status of 1909-1923 books? nwolcott2(a)post.harvard.edu

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re: [gutvol-d] Re: Search by subject for ebooks?
by Bowerbird＠aol.com 12 Sep '06

12 Sep '06

so, did anything get done on this matter on this round of the merry-go-round? -bowerbird p.s. nice summary, john... ----------------------------------------------- j.hagerson said: We have the classic PG conundrum: In response to a suggestion to make a change, someone helpfully (sarcasm, people!) indicates the enormity of the task and asks if the person making the suggestion is willing to single-handedly implement it or to raise tens of thousands of dollars to hire one or more professionals to "do it right." Another responds with a willingness to participate in an aspect of the solution, but only after someone else gets the ball rolling. Another person reminds us that Distributed Proofreaders has already collected the data to provide a partial solution; we only need to create a mechanism to bring their data over to the "parent" site. Finally, someone pipes up that some material provided to DP is so rare that the only records of the material even being created are buried with some defrocked monk who drowned off the coast of Antigua under mysterious circumstances. And someone else will contribute yet another dead horse for us to beat. Come on, people. There is no magic wand to provide a complete instant solution to this issue. There is also nothing wrong for multiple partial solutions. If someone is really excited about petunias, let that person create a petunia page. If the LOC has an official subject category for petunias (I don't know, Science - Botany - Perennial Plants - North America - Petunias), then let's link things that way too. We have Distributed Proofreaders. Do we need Distributed Catalogers? I would be willing to read a book and tell you what categories would be significant to me. I am not a professional cataloger, but I have used a library before and I have some concept of a subject index. The original post was along the lines of "it would be nice if we could do this." Yes, lots of things would be nice and not every nice thing deserves to be done. However, if we fancy ourselves as a library, is not a subject index part of the catalog? Let the flames begin.

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creative commons success-story
by Bowerbird＠aol.com 09 Sep '06

09 Sep '06

this just came across cory doctorow's listserve... any p.g. e-texts that might appeal to navy kids? -bowerbird ------------------------------------------------ Heartwarming Creative Commons success-story Last week, I received the most remarkable letter from Jamie, a U.S. Navy seaman stationed on a ship in the Mediterranean Sea. Because my novels are Creative Commons-licensed, he is able to download them and print them out onboard ship, and pass them around to his comrades. The absence of quality reading material on the ship has turned Creative Commons texts into hot items on the ship: > Just like to thank you, from some undisclosed (for operational > security reasons, doncha know) location in the middle of the > Mediterranean Sea, for keeping my sanity. I'm in the U.S. Navy, and > my ship got surge-deployed without warning a couple weeks ago to > "help" with the situation in Lebanon. On a ship underway, there's > no room to keep books -- unless they're the ancient, creaking John > Grisham paperbacks in the ship's library -- and no time to get some > anyway if you're scrambling around for the couple days of warning > you have trying to get your bills set up to pay themselves and > telling your landlord you're vanishing for an "open-ended" period > of time. So, the ability to download your stuff from craphound.com > has permitted me to feed my addiction to the printed word without > having to have someplace to store the physical artifact of the books. > Of course, I actually printed out "Someone Comes" and "Down and > Out", the two I don't own dead-tree copies of yet, and stuck 'em in > a binder, where they've been passed from person to person in my > department, helping keep the other sci-fi junkies similarly sane. > > [three days later] > > Thought you might like to know that what started as "Jamie feeds > his print addiction" has turned into something else entirely. The > sci-fi addicts rapidly finished off the two novels I'd printed out > and bindered, and I had the binder with me in the engine room, > reading to pass the time, when one of the other guys asked what I > was reading. > > A couple hours later, the only noise in the place was when one of > the half-dozen guys sitting around would look up and ask, "Hey, > who's got page 41 of Down and Out?" It was... well, I'm not sure I > can express how weird it was. These are men who aren't normally > readers, much less consumers of slightly wacky science fiction, and > they're now getting impatient with each other to finish chapters so > they can find out what happens next. > > It's starting to change the very *tone* of where I work on the > ship, six hours on and six hours off: instead of the ever-present > three B's of talk to pass in the time in the plant -- beer, babes, > and bodily functions -- it's discussions of which novel (or short > story, since we've now got printouts of every piece of fiction on > craphound.com stuffed into a file cabinet) we liked best, and why, > and what makes this stuff cool, and where can we get more like it, > and even starting to talk about the copyfight, and why that's > important. > > I spent about two hours last night as I was reading glancing up > every so often, and grinning like an idiot every time 'cause there > were five guys whose talk usually revolves around how drunk they > were this one time head-down in some pretty intense reading. > > Thank you. This is really something else.

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PG site down - when will be back up?
by Jared Buck 09 Sep '06

09 Sep '06

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Headline news on gutenberg.org wiki?
by Greg Newby 07 Sep '06

07 Sep '06

Hi, Marcello & other Wiki experts. Is there a reasonable way to put the headline news we used to have on the main page, back? Currently, news appears here: http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Gutenberg:News but no headlines on the main page. I thought it was nice to have them there...just a simple "3 most recent" or "this month's headlines" would be great. Thanks for considering... -- Greg

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Re: [gutvol-d] DOWNLOADING STARTS AT GOOGLE BOOK SEARCH
by Joshua Hutchinson 06 Sep '06

06 Sep '06

> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeroen Hellingman (Mailing List Account)" <jeroen.mailinglist(a)bohol.ph> > The quality of the scanning work is often not very good How responsive is Google to reports of missing/obscured pages? For instance, when I've found similar issues at Cornell's digital archives, the most I've received back is a "Thanks for letting us know" and nothing ever got fixed. (And I don't always even get the "thanks" reply) Josh

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Fwd: [webgroup] Ibiblio server move
by Greg Newby 05 Sep '06

05 Sep '06

I believe the server that hosts gutenberg.org will be included in the planned outage. -- Greg ----- Forwarded message from Ken Chestnutt <ken(a)metalab.unc.edu> ----- From: Ken Chestnutt <ken(a)metalab.unc.edu> To: webgroup(a)lists.ibiblio.org Subject: [webgroup] Ibiblio server move Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 15:30:40 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gbnewby(a)pglaf.org Delivered-To: webgroup(a)lists.ibiblio.org Precedence: list Errors-To: webgroup-bounces(a)lists.ibiblio.org Hi folks, As you may have noticed from previous emails, ibiblio is in the middle of migrating it's servers from one data center to another. This weekend's final piece of the move is the one that impacts the most people. You can take heart in the fact the previous two moves went well with only a few minor inconveniences. To facilitate the move, we will be turning off access to our servers on Friday, September 8, starting at 6:00 pm EDT (2200 GMT). Access will denied until Saturday, September 9 at 6:00 pm (2200 GMT). We do not expect access to be denied for this long but we are giving ourselves a large window in which to clean up any problems that may arise. This means you will not be able to check your email nor modify your website while we are migrating the servers. Your collection will still be available during most of the move, you will simply be unable to modify them. This is to give us the ability to do one final data synchronization from the servers in our old facility to the servers in our new facility. The only downtime you will experience will be the time the database server is actually being moved. Feel free to add a notice to your website warning your users of the possible interruption. You will not have to do anything UNLESS you manage your own DNS record. If you manage your own DNS record, you will need to repoint your IP address from 152.2.210.81 to 152.46.7.81 on Friday evening. If you have any questions or concerns, please drop us an email at help(a)ibiblio.org. Thanks ken Ken Chestnutt System Administrator ibiblio.org _______________________________________________ webgroup mailing list webgroup(a)lists.ibiblio.org http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/webgroup ----- End forwarded message -----

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Re: Search by subject for ebooks?
by Wallace J.McLean 05 Sep '06

05 Sep '06

Would it be possible for some clever script-writer out there to be able to set up something that would harvest LOC/AMICUS subject lines, based on inputting the Dewey or LOC call number or cat number?

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