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kindle numbers and ipad numbers
by Bowerbird＠aol.com 16 Sep '10

16 Sep '10

i think the world has now pretty much figured out that the kindle "versus" the ipad is apple "versus" orange -- both can survive and thrive, each off in their own niche. but the _size_ of the niches is still an interesting topic, especially as we move along the present into the future. so here's an interesting set of charts: > http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2010/09/13/the-apple-branded-campus/ in the "e-reader/tablet" sphere, the piechart says that 48% of college students brought a kindle to school and 48% brought an ipad. (the other 4% had a sony reader.) so it looks like, at this point in time, for college students, the ipad and the kindle have reached some form of parity. -bowerbird

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Re: kindle numbers and ipad numbers
by Bowerbird＠aol.com 16 Sep '10

16 Sep '10

keith said: > These figures do not feel realistic! i cannot vouch for their accuracy... or lack of it... if you see better data, please feel free to share it. -bowerbird

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Re: kindle numbers and ipad numbers
by Bowerbird＠aol.com 16 Sep '10

16 Sep '10

kevin said: > I think you both need to re-read the chart/article. what makes you think i had any trouble understanding the data? likewise, i felt keith grasped the numbers just fine. he was merely saying that the sample was small, and perhaps not representative, good points, both, the second of which had not been addressed... (the first is acknowledged right off the bat in the .cnn article.) > Sounds like 25 people out of 212 brought > an tablet like device to the dorms with them > and admitted it during freshmen orientation. > 12 had Kindles, 12 had Ipads, and 1 had a sony reader, > hardly a plateau of achievement. hard numbers were not given, so that's a guess, but i would not question it, given the round nature of the percentages provided. but we will have to disagree if this is "a plateau of achievement"; 25 out of 212, if it is a representative number, would be 11.8%... considering the ipad is under 6 months out of the starting gate, and hasn't had its first holiday season yet, 5.4% is a healthy rate. and since the kindle skews old, 5.4% of college freshmen is great. and the fact that _each_ of the machines is doing well _alongside_ the _other_ should give cheer to all of us oldtimers who have been waiting for e-books to punch through for several _decades_ now... and the "bottom line" is that both apple and amazon say they are quite happy with the success of their products, and they back up the statements with cold hard cash advertising the crap out of 'em. they can't match all the political ads (at least not here in california, where meg whitman is spending a fortune), but they pass viagra... -bowerbird

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Re: posting size waiver.
by Greg Newby 14 Sep '10

14 Sep '10

On Mon, Sep 06, 2010 at 06:36:17PM -0400, Greg Weeks wrote: > > I thought we had this settled, but apparently not. I have two > projects over at pgdp where the PPer has given up on posting them > because the WWer refuses to take them because they are 1 page poems > out of Weird Tales. Greg W., others: Thanks for your input on this. It's fine for short items from magazines to be posted as stand-alone eBooks in the Gutenberg collection. If anything is held up in the process, drop me a note and I'll see what's going on. The current uncertainty was produced, at least partially, because I had volunteered to see whether some sort of combination is deemed reasonable or desirable by the submitter. If it's not (and your message is that it is not), then of course we'll post the poems or other short items separately. I do still think it's useful and appropriate to combine items themactically, when it is practical. "Poetry Selections from Galaxy 1955-1956" seems perfectly acceptable to me, and would have the benefit of putting something that is more book- or magazine-length in a reader's hands, rather than just a single short poem. But this is guidance, not dictate. I'm not sure which items might be held, or by whom. But the WWers involved perhaps do. I hope we can get any pending items moving immediately. Sorry for the delay with these. -- Greg > The whole workflow at DP does NOT let you combine things when they > need separate clearances. > > The items are: > Lycanthropus by Bolen, C. Edgar 20100108175432bolen > The Lost Temples of Xantoos by Calhoun, Howell 20100110102049calhoun > > They come out of different issues of Weird Tales. I know not who the > WWer is as I'm not actually involved in the posting step at all. > > Greg Weeks > > On Mon, 18 Jun 2007, Greg Newby wrote: > > >On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 05:06:59PM -0400, Robert Cicconetti wrote: > >>I definitely agree with the basic idea, although I would like to suggest > >>that the rule be rewritten altogether to allow shorter works, "complete as > >>published", as well. Pamphlets, for example, were very important in shaping > >>public opinion during the American Revolution. > >> > >>Not all were collected later, or if they were, some are under a compilation > >>copyright. > >> > >>R C > > > >The 25K is a guideline, not a fixed lower limit. I agree > >with posting smaller items when they are indeed their own > >"items." > > > >For short stories from magazines, it would be preferable > >to have the whole issue, but as Greg mentions not practical > >when only some of the stories are clearable. > > > >I'll remind the WW team that shorter items are fine, when > >these practical issues make a shorter piece difficult. > > > >BTW, one of my first PG "titles" was O Henry's "Gift > >of the Magi." That was too short for a full eBook (only a > >few pages), so Michael elected at the time to not assign > >an eBook number, but to add it to the collection. That's > >not how we'd do things today (we rely on eBook #s as a main > >identifier), but shows that flexibility is nice! > > -- Greg > > > >>On 6/18/07, Juliet Sutherland <vze3rknp(a)verizon.net> wrote: > >>> > >>>Sounds like a great idea to me. > >>> > >>>JulietS > >>> > >>>Greg Weeks wrote: > >>> > >>>>Can we get a waiver for the 25K minimum size limit for postings for the > >>>>rule 6 SF pieces? They have to be cleared separately, so it's very > >>>>difficult to aggregate them. In the case of the ASF stuff from 1959-1963 > >>>>we would run afoul of the collection copyright if we tried to aggregate > >>>by > >>>>issue anyway. > > -- > Greg Weeks > http://durendal.org:8080/greg/

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record and release free music without copyrights
by Bowerbird＠aol.com 12 Sep '10

12 Sep '10

some of you might know about kickstarter, which is a website where creative entities can solicit -- and receive! -- funding from the public. it's very cool. there's a project there now -- one which has already attained its goal, but to which you can still contribute if you'd like -- where music which is in the public-domain will be newly recorded and released at no cost. > http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/Musopen/record-and-release-free-music-w… if you're a fan of classical music, this is definitely worth checking out... -bowerbird

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Re: posting size waiver.
by Greg Newby 08 Sep '10

08 Sep '10

On Mon, Sep 06, 2010 at 06:36:17PM -0400, Greg Weeks wrote: > > I thought we had this settled, but apparently not. I have two > projects over at pgdp where the PPer has given up on posting them > because the WWer refuses to take them because they are 1 page poems > out of Weird Tales. Greg, I'm sorry about this, but I was supposed to follow up with you and didn't. > The whole workflow at DP does NOT let you combine things when they > need separate clearances. Is that the only thing in the way? The idea, which I think you've heard, is to consider combining these very short items to make a larger item. Combinations could be by author, by topic, or by source. For example, perhaps combining an entire year's worth of Weird Tales items. We can certainly consider methods at the WWer phase to do such combinations, if that would help. Let me know what you think would be a good solution. I, personally, think that very short items should only be posted as a single eBook when there is a compelling reason (Robert's example of a pamphlet seems compelling, though even then I would wonder whether there are other, related pamphlets to combine). I see I basically already said this, below. What I'm not seeing is whether there is a reason (other than limitations in the DP workflow) not to combine. -- Greg > The items are: > Lycanthropus by Bolen, C. Edgar 20100108175432bolen > The Lost Temples of Xantoos by Calhoun, Howell 20100110102049calhoun > > They come out of different issues of Weird Tales. I know not who the > WWer is as I'm not actually involved in the posting step at all. > > Greg Weeks > > On Mon, 18 Jun 2007, Greg Newby wrote: > > >On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 05:06:59PM -0400, Robert Cicconetti wrote: > >>I definitely agree with the basic idea, although I would like to suggest > >>that the rule be rewritten altogether to allow shorter works, "complete as > >>published", as well. Pamphlets, for example, were very important in shaping > >>public opinion during the American Revolution. > >> > >>Not all were collected later, or if they were, some are under a compilation > >>copyright. > >> > >>R C > > > >The 25K is a guideline, not a fixed lower limit. I agree > >with posting smaller items when they are indeed their own > >"items." > > > >For short stories from magazines, it would be preferable > >to have the whole issue, but as Greg mentions not practical > >when only some of the stories are clearable. > > > >I'll remind the WW team that shorter items are fine, when > >these practical issues make a shorter piece difficult. > > > >BTW, one of my first PG "titles" was O Henry's "Gift > >of the Magi." That was too short for a full eBook (only a > >few pages), so Michael elected at the time to not assign > >an eBook number, but to add it to the collection. That's > >not how we'd do things today (we rely on eBook #s as a main > >identifier), but shows that flexibility is nice! > > -- Greg > > > >>On 6/18/07, Juliet Sutherland <vze3rknp(a)verizon.net> wrote: > >>> > >>>Sounds like a great idea to me. > >>> > >>>JulietS > >>> > >>>Greg Weeks wrote: > >>> > >>>>Can we get a waiver for the 25K minimum size limit for postings for the > >>>>rule 6 SF pieces? They have to be cleared separately, so it's very > >>>>difficult to aggregate them. In the case of the ASF stuff from 1959-1963 > >>>>we would run afoul of the collection copyright if we tried to aggregate > >>>by > >>>>issue anyway. > > -- > Greg Weeks > http://durendal.org:8080/greg/

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