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Re: [gutvol-d] RE: [gavel-d] Ibn Batuta
by D. Starner 25 Dec '04

25 Dec '04

"Dave Fawthrop" writes: > Maybe a friend of a friend of someone on gutvol-d? I don't think it's helpful to try and push people into handling a entire specific book right at the start, especially without OCR. > There are quite a lot of people who can read Classical Arabic, There's a lot of language communities out there that PG doesn't have much contact with. > Unicode has all the characters required. Also right to left writing. Unicode has pretty much all the letters we need, sans the myriad varietes of early 20th-century phonetic characters. That doesn't mean we can transcribe them easily. > Also because Arabic is a language designed for calligraphy, a page scan of > a well written copy would be useful. It's not really any different from English. A page of English calligraphy may be beautiful, but it's not a text version. -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm

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!@!Re: [gutvol-d] Fwd: Project Googleberg (fwd)
by Michael Hart 25 Dec '04

25 Dec '04

Request permission to quote/forward your comments, you can be anonymous if you like. . .as it may get back to Google. . . . > I have examined what seems to be the preliminary "Googleprint" > catalog. It consists of books scanned and posted by other people > including us. At least half of them that I looked at are available > only as page scans, and I have to want a book an awful lot to put > page scans together just for my own use. They use a LOT of our > books; in fact, everything they have that they are aware we have > shows us as the best or only site to go and get the book. Though from this message it wasn't clear whose words these are. David A. Desrosiers desrod(a)gnu-designs.com http://gnu-designs.com _______________________________________________ gutvol-d mailing list gutvol-d(a)lists.pglaf.org http://lists.pglaf.org/listinfo.cgi/gutvol-d

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Re: [gutvol-d] RE: [gavel-d] Ibn Batuta
by D. Starner 25 Dec '04

25 Dec '04

"Dave Fawthrop" writes: > The original ?Arabic? would be nice. In etext form? Yes. In paper form, it'd be down right useless for PG. We just don't have anyone really capable of handling it. We don't have OCR--the Urdu team at DP-EU is completely type-in, and I don't know of anyone interested in proofing more than a few lines of Arabic. -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm

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Re: [gutvol-d] Fwd: Project Googleberg
by Gutenberg9443＠aol.com 25 Dec '04

25 Dec '04

In a message dated 12/24/2004 6:43:46 PM Mountain Standard Time, flis(a)detk.com writes: Who would put such an attachment? I haven't the foggiest. Some great guru of the Internet must have done it. I'm glad I'm not the culprit. Anne

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Re: [gutvol-d] Fwd: Project Googleberg
by Gutenberg9443＠aol.com 25 Dec '04

25 Dec '04

In a message dated 12/24/2004 11:37:36 AM Mountain Standard Time, jlinden(a)pglaf.org writes: All your messages come through with an attachment because you use HTML formatted mail. I didn't know that. What kind of an attachment is it? Anne

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Re: [gutvol-d] Fwd: Project Googleberg
by Gutenberg9443＠aol.com 24 Dec '04

24 Dec '04

In a message dated 12/23/2004 5:42:07 PM Mountain Standard Time, hacker(a)gnu-designs.com writes: First and foremost, when composing email, the best place for your text is in the the _body_ of the email, not sent as an attachment (a non-RFC-compliant attachment at that). Please don't do that. Where was the attachment? What was the attachment? I ask because I didn't remember an attachment and when I went back and looked at my "send" list I didn't find an attachment. Therefore, if there was an attachment, somebody else attached it and I'd like to know who, when, how, and why. Anne

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Re: [gutvol-d] Fwd: Project Googleberg
by Gutenberg9443＠aol.com 24 Dec '04

24 Dec '04

In a message dated 12/23/2004 5:42:07 PM Mountain Standard Time, hacker(a)gnu-designs.com writes: Second, when you wish to post to a mailing list about a particular subject, it is best to read the archives first, in full, so you can see if the subject or question you were about to ask has been discussed before, as this one has. Please go back and re-read the archives of the last few weeks to bring yourself up to speed on the issues, concerns, support, and other items related to "Google Print". Thank you for your suggestions. Now I am going to ignore them completely, as I have far too much to do to go back and reread all the archives. I prefer to risk being redundant than to risk leaving a question unanswered. A question was asked. I looked into the matter. I answered the question. Period. Anne

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Re: [gutvol-d] !@!Re: E-DOCS: Google Print Questions [J. Roland]
by Joshua Hutchinson 23 Dec '04

23 Dec '04

----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Hart" <hart(a)pglaf.org> > > As one who works from a lot of older works to not only scan and OCR but > > correct them, I know how much human labor is involved. There are volunteer > > efforts like Distributed Proofreaders http://www.pgdp.net/c/default.php , > > but I have concluded that it takes me more time to set up a project for them > > than it would take for me to do the proofreading myself, and my work would > > likely be more accurate, since I would understand the underlying content and > > know how to render obscure text. > > While it does take a little time to set up one's first project with the > Distributed Proofreaders, it is usually quite a bit easier the second time, > not to mention that we have volunteers who will walk you through processes > the first few times around, which seems to do the trick for nearly everyone. > I just want to make a quick comment on this part (since I somehow missed the initial e-mail). Setting up projects at DP is not time consuming (well, the upload of the image files can be, depending on your internet connection), especially once you've done it a few times. As one of the larger DP project managers (currently at 687 projects created for DP), I can tell you that there is NO WAY to proof even an easy text in the amount of time it takes to create and upload the project to DP. Even if I take into account OCR time (which I batch up and run overnight), it is still less time than I would take to proof the work. I can also reiterated Michael's comment that there are plenty of folks ready to help out new content providers on their first few projects. It can be a little daunting the first time, but it gets easier once you've done a couple times. Also, for folks that don't want to get heavily involved, we can usually work something out with someone that just wants to provide the image scans. We can usually take it from there (assuming they are public domain scans, of course). Josh PS I also haven't created any new projects in many months because of the backlog we've got in the system. I wanted to help clear out some more work before sending more into the queue. So those 687 were done in a much shorter frame of time than my login statistics at DP might otherwise imply.

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by N Wolcott 23 Dec '04

23 Dec '04

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Re: [gutvol-d] Need Help With MS Word File
by Dennis McCarthy 23 Dec '04

23 Dec '04

The original message was a little vague on the details, so I contacted Jeanette Hayward for some more information the the help request for: Henry A. Beers A History of English Romanticism in the Eighteenth Century Mrs. Hayward began this text three years ago, but has had to stop in a near finished state to deal with serious family medical issuse. A friend loaned some webspace, so you may download a sample 10 pages of the text at: http://www.lakeclaire.org/beers/beers_sample.doc The full text is about 250 pages worth of text. If like what you see, and wish to contact Mrs. Hayward to adopt this project, please contact her at: jeanett(a)teacher.com She can also give you the web address for the full as-is transcription. -------------- "Finished state" refers to the proofing, and/or final version (HTML, etc). She has typed in everything except the index within the book which isn't necessary in this format. Currently, it is in MS-Word, but can be converted to anything you wish to use. She has proofed as she went along, but as always, it would be better to have someone else proof also. There are some "misspellings" but those are the author's words, not typos. So, she is willing to ship the original copy to the proofer. -----Original Message----- From: Michael Hart <hart(a)pglaf.org> Sent: Dec 20, 2004 12:55 PM To: Project Gutenberg Whitewashers <pgww(a)lists.pglaf.org>, The gutvol-d Mailing List <gutvol-d(a)lists.pglaf.org> Subject: [gutvol-d] Need Help With MS Word File A volunteer who has been working on a book for us for three years is very near completion, but can't do any more due to medical issues. If anyone is willing to take a look at this book and help get it into a final format, please let me know. Forwarded message: Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 11:13:38 -0500 From: Jeanette Hayward <jeanett(a)teacher.com> To: hart(a)beryl.ils.unc.edu Subject: Ebook submission Hello, My name is Jeanette Hayward. I began transcribing Henry A. Beers, A History of English Romanticism in the Eighteenth Century nearly 3 years ago. Because of a number of issues,I am just now getting to the finished state. Unfortunately, I will not be able to do much more with the transcription. But, I did want to submit the work because I feel it is important to be able to add it to the collection. I tried sending this message to the submission team; however, my ISP apparently had difficulty recognizing the address as a valid e-mail address. *** My HUGE thanks to anyone who can help! Michael _______________________________________________ gutvol-d mailing list gutvol-d(a)lists.pglaf.org http://lists.pglaf.org/listinfo.cgi/gutvol-d --------------------------- Dennis McCarthy nihil_obstat(a)mindspring.com

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