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Re: [gutvol-d] [BP] The Future of eBooks
by D. Starner 11 Nov '04

11 Nov '04

Alev Akman writes: > > But it's not. A book that included part of the current PG title > > was published > > and printed then; but the PG title also includes various other > > publicationsthat weren't combined with it in book form. > > I was just trying to make a point and give an example. I had no way of knowing what the publication date for the title in question was. Did I? : ) What point? It's obvious we're at cross purposes. The publication date had nothing to do with it. My point was that that data was wrong, because the PG book was a unique compliation of several original volumes; the fact that the publication date was wrong was a red herring. -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm

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Re: [gutvol-d] [BP] The Future of eBooks
by Alev Akman 11 Nov '04

11 Nov '04

----- Original Message ----- From: "D. Starner" <shalesller(a)writeme.com> Date: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 5:21 pm Subject: Re: [gutvol-d] [BP] The Future of eBooks > Alev Akman writes: > > > > > At 01:51 PM 11/10/2004, you wrote: > > > > >More towards what I was thinking, there are books that are > compilations of > > >several printed books. PG recently posted The Fifteen Comforts > of Matrimony: > > >Responses from Men and The Fifteen Comforts of Matrimony: > Responses from > > >Women. > > > > Here's the tabbed text format of the title you mentioned: > > > > The Fifteen comforts of matrimony. La Sale, Antoine de 1795 [by > > Isaiah Thomas] and sold at the Worcester bookstore. > > But it's not. A book that included part of the current PG title > was published > and printed then; but the PG title also includes various other > publicationsthat weren't combined with it in book form. I was just trying to make a point and give an example. I had no way of knowing what the publication date for the title in question was. Did I? : ) Alev. > > (It's probably a moot point, but that's not the text; that part of > PG text was > printed in 1706 in England. It may be a reprint, but it could be a > seperate > translation or a different text trading on the popularity of the > first.) > -- > ___________________________________________________________ > Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com > http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm > > _______________________________________________ > gutvol-d mailing list > gutvol-d(a)lists.pglaf.org > http://lists.pglaf.org/listinfo.cgi/gutvol-d >

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iPod transformation to try
by Greg Newby 11 Nov '04

11 Nov '04

I'm forwarding the information below in the hopes that some folks with iPods could check this out. Provided it works, I'll link it in our PDA "howto" and maybe we'll put a note about it in the newsletters. Please Cc any feedback to Dan, as well as gutvol-d. Thanks! Greg ----- Forwarded message from Dan Duris <dusoft(a)staznosti.sk> ----- From: Dan Duris <dusoft(a)staznosti.sk> To: Greg Newby <gbnewby(a)pglaf.org> Subject: Re: Converting Project Gutenberg's books for read on iPod Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 02:10:34 +0100 iPod eBook Creator allows you to convert any text file to notes (note files for iPod). You can then read almost any book, magazine or message available in plain text format on your iPod. It's free online service that basically splits the large text files to small ones (due to iPod limitation on note files). It also links the notes, so you can easily browse them same way as turning pages in the book. URL: http://www.ambience.sk/ipod-ebook-creator/ipod-book-notes-text-conversion.p… Any comments are welcome at: dusoft(a)staznosti.sk (I am not subscribed to this mailing list)

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Re: [gutvol-d] [BP] The Future of eBooks
by D. Starner 11 Nov '04

11 Nov '04

Alev Akman writes: > > At 01:51 PM 11/10/2004, you wrote: > > >More towards what I was thinking, there are books that are compilations of > >several printed books. PG recently posted The Fifteen Comforts of Matrimony: > >Responses from Men and The Fifteen Comforts of Matrimony: Responses from > >Women. > > Here's the tabbed text format of the title you mentioned: > > The Fifteen comforts of matrimony. La Sale, Antoine de 1795 [by > Isaiah Thomas] and sold at the Worcester bookstore. But it's not. A book that included part of the current PG title was published and printed then; but the PG title also includes various other publications that weren't combined with it in book form. (It's probably a moot point, but that's not the text; that part of PG text was printed in 1706 in England. It may be a reprint, but it could be a seperate translation or a different text trading on the popularity of the first.) -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm

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Re: [gutvol-d] [BP] The Future of eBooks
by Bowerbird＠aol.com 11 Nov '04

11 Nov '04

marcello said: > I think you should program one over the weekend in BASIC > to keep up your record of phenomenal software success stories. i'm busy this weekend. but i'll get to it next month, i promise... but it's appropriate that -- on my way out -- you'd try to smear me because i use _basic_ -- goodness gracious -- since that was exactly what you did when i first appeared. you also thought it was fashionable to try and ridicule me because i'm on a.o.l., so do try and work that in now too... because you can bet money that when i start up my blog and tell the world what a bunch of idiots are running the show here, i will make fun of you because you're a bunch of script kiddies who think that you'll rule the world because you know reg-ex. > Oh, no! He learned a new buzzword. > He'll never let us hear the end of it. actually, i've served my one-year sentence here, much of it in solitary, so i'll be leaving very shortly. oh, i learned that "buzzword" a long, long time ago. as far as "finding" things goes, it's a silver bullet... and if anyone wants to see it applied to books, the guy at alexlit was doing it many years ago. might wanna talk to him about it... -bowerbird

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Re: [gutvol-d] [BP] The Future of eBooks
by Bowerbird＠aol.com 10 Nov '04

10 Nov '04

brad said: > Are you kidding? no. are you? > Check any of the major online catalogs. > They all try to integrate records for electronic works. yeah. but so what? i don't get the impression that the people who are looking for e-texts go to a library's catalog to try and find 'em... > The rows of wooden drawers with paper catalog cards are > still there but most people use the computer catalog. um, yes, i quite realize that. as far as i know, the "rows of wooden drawers" were effectively replaced a decade or more ago. they're still kind of quaint, though, don't you think? in spite of their digitized equivalents, however, google (and the others) are the new "card catalog". so i would think it would be _far_ more productive to implement a strategy that leverages the search engines (because, honestly, the system you have now does not), instead of plays into all of the antiquated systems. heck, i'd even like to see a decent system on the website. the one there now is good if you know the title and/or the author-name. that's a start. but it doesn't go very far, not in _recommending_ a book to a reader... > A growing number of brick and mortar libraries > are now adding etexts to their collections. > Sometimes they only provide links to websites > but often they are local copies of the etexts > which correspond to their catalog entry. well, that's all very nice. and if they did all of the work to integrate this e-library into their system, i'd say "thanks". but i don't see much purpose in doing that work myself, not when a whole host of other capabilities would be _far_ more useful, in my eyes, like full-text search... if getting to the patrons of a specific brick-and-mortar library could _only_ be done by getting myself in that specific catalog, it might be a completely different story. but when those patrons can just as easily use their computer to find my e-texts in google as to find them in the library's catalog, i don't see much difference. besides, show me one good system -- from any library out there! -- that helps a person find a book that they will like. show me! please! i said it before, and i'll say it again. collaborative filtering does this. spend time _productively_, building a collaborative filtering system. people don't decide what to read based on the info in a marc record. > A remote library in northern India may not be able to > afford the bandwidth to download PG texts. But they can > provide access to a CDROM collection of the PG texts. ok, except now you're talking about something different. putting a c.d. of the e-texts into a brick-and-mortar library -- or indeed, in every residence in india with a computer -- is a great idea. but that has little to do with marc records. > Librarians would love to be able to say > "all copies have been checked out, > but the etext is available in pdf, html and plain text" you'd think so. but michael reports he has encountered resistance. say what you will, i don't think "the absence of marc records" is why. (and when librarians finally decide they _do_ want a copy of the c.d., an absence of those marc records will be of zero consequence to them.) nonetheless, i'm sure their intelligent patrons will be able to find a copy. online. using google. to download. and burn copies for their neighbors. > I'd like to hear one good reason why the catalog shouldn't be > available in as many different formats as is needed > for everyone to find and access PG texts? the best reason of all is because no one seems to want to do the work. most of you say "it's a good idea" (although i haven't heard one single compelling reason _why_), but very few have done anything about it. (kudos to andrew. and what is his experience? "it's hard work!") now, what is your counterargument to that? yeah, that's what i thought. -bowerbird

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Re: [gutvol-d] [BP] The Future of eBooks
by Joshua Hutchinson 10 Nov '04

10 Nov '04

----- Original Message ----- From: Alev Akman <aakman(a)csufresno.edu> > > Maybe if the computer people stuck to "computering" and listened to how the > library world does it? After all, the library sytems and conventions have > been in place for a while. Great! Answer my earlier question then. What fields should be mandatory for our <teiHeader> and which fields should be optional? ie, Author, title, Original publisher = mandatory. Optional? Author birth/death dates? Which printing of the original source we derived from? Others? I'm not a librarian. I need someone knowledgeable to answer these questions. Josh PS If we define good teiHeader information for each work, it becomes a much simpler task for Marcello's cataloging scripts to find all sorts of fun information for the reader.

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Re: [gutvol-d] [BP] The Future of eBooks
by D. Starner 10 Nov '04

10 Nov '04

Alev Akman writes: > >How can this be mandatory? We've got a few composite books, that don't have > >a single print analogue, and many books where it would be hard or arbitrary > >to find an edition to get this information from. > > I was speaking for our future records. I am aware that some of our files > are even compilations of various additions. Hopefully we are getting away > from works obtained that way, maybe even redoing them. If we want > dependable works, we should be able to prove our source. No more chickening > out for copyright reasons. It still can't be mandatory until we're willing to seek out editions for every single book we've done, either the exact same edition or be willing to update the text to an edition we can find. More towards what I was thinking, there are books that are compilations of several printed books. PG recently posted The Fifteen Comforts of Matrimony: Responses from Men and The Fifteen Comforts of Matrimony: Responses from Women. We could break those down into the individual 8 page pamphlets, but PG has generally discouraged that. Likewise, if I can ever find the papers, a book of short stories by Edna St. V. Millay will go to DP, consistenting of several stories written for magazines but never collected as a book. There's no reason for us to break that up, either. If you enter "Het Esperanto" into the LoC catalog, you get "[Language, languages, and writing pamphlets]./1819-1947/51 items". So this is a practice that LoC engages in, in its own way. -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm

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MARC to the catalog
by Greg Newby 10 Nov '04

10 Nov '04

Here's some information to try to get subject cataloging moving forward. As you've seen, Alev (who cataloged our first 3500 or so books) has stepped up to try to help shape this project. Andrew Sly has also stepped up, and has already been doing a lot of editing of existing catalog data. (I'm sending this to gutvol-d, but hope we can soon take this conversation to gutcat(a)lists.pglaf.org. Visit http://lists.pglaf.org to subscribe) One of our goals is to get proper subject headings into the Project Gutenberg catalog. ("Proper" means that they come from the Library of Congress Subject Headings corpus or similar authoritative source, and were generated by librarians or similarly clued-in people.) Currently, less than 1/4 of the Project Gutenberg collection has subject headings. Furthermore, the names we use for authors and titles are not always consistent. There are other limitations with the current catalog data, too. This message is partially to let people know how I think we'd like to start, and partially to ask Marcello and others (like Steve Thomas) to look at what it will take to move things forward. The basic scenario is that the easiest way to get authoritative catalog data (including subject headings) for our holdings is to find existing library catalog entries. There are some great resources and software for doing this, and a data interchange format called MARC. MARC stands for Machine Readable Cataloging, and it actually has a few variations. Essentially, it's delimited fields with data about an item: author, title, etc. (Many, many fields and subfields - most of which are not needed for a particular item.) ** What I'd like to enable is import of MARC records to the catalog, to update, augment or replace existing catalog entry for a particular item. This is harder than it might sound, for a variety of reasons. I'm appending a few MARC records from some recently released PG titles that Alev was able to find (yes, she found existing catalog records for these items, even though some are obscure and non-English). I don't want to over-specify how I think the workflow should happen. I think that's still to be determined. But the overall flow needs to be somewhat circular: librarians need to import existing PG catalog records, preferably in MARC format, to existing software. (Alev has a couple of programs for this; PGLAF can probably acquire software for other folks who'd like to work a lot on this activity.) Then, updated records would need to be shipped back into the catalog. Below are some MARC records, also the listing of info in the PG catalog and our clearance records (which are incomplete - though we usually do have the page scans sent for clearance) -- Greg One format: Title Author Date Publisher Note Punch, or, The London Charivari. Punch (London, England) 1841 Published for the proprietors by R. Bryant "No. 1. For the week ending July 17, 1941. Price Threepence."--At head of cover. Lippincott's magazine of popular literature and science (none) 1871; 1871-1880 J.B. Lippincott and Co. Edited in Philadelphia for the first seventeen years by John Foster Kirk, Lippincott's Magazine published many notable English and American writers including Henry James, Oscar Wilde, Amelie Rive, Conan Doyle, and Rudyard Kipling. In addition to long and short fiction, there was much literary criticism and many book reviews and illustrated travel articles. Although the contents were of high quality, competition with popular New York magazines eventually caused Lippincott's to be sold in 1914 to McBride, Nast and Company who moved it to New York and changed the name to McBride's Magazine. After a short time, however, it was merged with Scribner's; Title from caption.; Microfilm. The Lady of the Lake Scott, Walter; Rolfe, W. J. 1922 Houghton Mifflin company (none) The authoritative life of General William Booth Railton, George Scott 1912; c1912 Hodder & Stoughton, George H. Doran company (none) Camp and trail Hornibrook, Isabel Katherine 1897 Lothrop publishing company (none) The Outdoor Girls in army service, or, Doing their bit for the soldier boys Hope, Laura Lee. 1918; c1918 Grosset & Dunlap (none) Grace Harlowe's second year at Overton College Flower, Jessie Graham. 1914; c1914 Henry Altemus (none) Les trois mousquetaires Dumas, Alexandre; Le Courrier des États-Unis 1846 P. Gaillardet At head of title: Semaine littéraire du Courrier des États-Unis. George Borrow Thomas, Edward. 1912 Chapman & Hall, ltd. "Bibliography of George Borrow": p.[323]-333. Another: 00796nam 2200217 a 45M0001001300000003000400013005001700017008004100034040001300075043001200088050002000100130002800120245003700148246002100185260006500206300003300271500008500304650004000389650003900429852011000468NYUb11968217NYU19990310183125.0990310s1841 enka 000 0 eng d aNNUcNNU ae-uk-en 4aAP101b.P8 18410 aPunch (London, England)10aPunch, or, The London Charivari.30aLondon Charivari aLondon :bPublished for the proprietors by R. Bryant,c1841. a14, [2] p. :bill. ;c30 cm. a"No. 1. For the week ending July 17, 1941. 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Lippincott and Co.,c1871-1880. a20 v. :bill. ;c28 cm. aMonthly0 aVol. 7, no. 1 (Jan. 1871)-v. 26 (Dec. 1880). aEdited in Philadelphia for the first seventeen years by John Foster Kirk, Lippincott's Magazine published many notable English and American writers including Henry James, Oscar Wilde, Amelie Rive, Conan Doyle, and Rudyard Kipling. In addition to long and short fiction, there was much literary criticism and many book reviews and illustrated travel articles. Although the contents were of high quality, competition with popular New York magazines eventually caused Lippincott's to be sold in 1914 to McBride, Nast and Company who moved it to New York and changed the name to McBride's Magazine. After a short time, however, it was merged with Scribner'szCf. American periodicals, 1741-1900. aTitle from caption. aMicrofilm.bAnn Arbor, Mich. :cXerox University Microfilms,d1972.e8 microfilm reels ; 4 in., 35 mm.f(American periodicals, 1850-1900 ; 317-324)0 tAmerican periodical series, 1850-19001 tLippincott's magazine of popular literature and science00tLippincott's magazine of literature, science and education00tLippincott's magazine 0aAmerican periodical series, 1850-1900 ;v317-324. lBobst Microform dFilm 277 APS III R317-322e8908f0g5hj7-26k1871-1880 lBMICR a06/03/93tcs9110nNNUwDCLCSF8999097Sd08/10/89cMJDbSKHi930603h921026h890919h890810lNYUG aNNUbNYUbBobstbMicroform711635364mNon-circulatingpN10396809yAvailable5N1039680900953cam 22002531 4500001000800000005001700008008004100025035002100066906004500087010001700132035001900149040001800168050002100186100003700207245009700244250002200341260006300363300005600426490004300482650005200525700005200577985002100629991004900650966895320031210181225.0830715s1922 msuab 000 0 eng 9(DLC) 25005333 a7bcbccoclcrplduencipf19gy-gencatlg a 25005333 a(OCoLC)9706316 aDLCcMsJdDLC00aPR5308b.A1 19221 aScott, Walter,cSir,d1771-1832.14aThe Lady of the Lake,cby Sir Walter Scott, Bart.; edited with notes by William J. Rolfe ... aRev. and enl. ed. aBoston,aNew York [etc.]bHoughton Mifflin companyc[1922] axvi, 272, [2] p. incl. front., illus., map.c17 cm.0 a[Riverside literature series,vno. 53] 0aLady of the Lake (Legendary character)vPoetry.1 aRolfe, W. J.q(William James),d1827-1910,eed. eOCLC REPLACEMENT bc-GenCollhPR5308i.A1 1922tCopy 1wOCLCREP00614nam 2200157I 45000010008000000080041000080100013000490350015000620500018000771000039000952450149001342600068002833000053003516000032004046100020004361828178830316s1912 nyucf 00010beng a13000924 a0313-237600 aBX9743.B7bR31 aRailton, George Scott,d1849-1913.04aThe authoritative life of General William Booth,bfounder of the Salvation army,cby G. S. Railton ... with a preface by General Bramwell Booth. aNew York,bHodder & Stoughton, George H. Doran companyc[c1912] a7 p. l., 331 p.bfront., ports., facsim.c20 cm.10aBooth, William,d1829-1912.20aSalvation Army.00595nam 2200181u 4500001000800000005001700008008004100025035002100066906004500087010001700132040001900149050001600168100006000184245002100244260004800265300004600313991005400359585949400000000000000.0810904s1897 mauf j 000 0 eng 9(DLC) 04016828 a0bcbccpremunvduencipf19gy-gencatlg a 04016828 aDLCcCarPdDLC00aPZ7.H784bC1 aHornibrook, Isabel Katherine,d1859- [from old catalog]10aCamp and trail; aBoston,bLothrop publishing companyc[1897] a2 p.bl., 5-305 p. front. plates.c20 cm. bc-GenCollhPZ7.H784iCp00024749368tCopy 1wPREM00478nam 2200145Ia 45000010009000000050017000090080041000260400023000670900022000901000021001122450102001332600042002353000029002774900026003061000467619880111095007.0831012s1918 nyua j 00011 eng d aNGUcNGUdm/cdBGU aPS3515.O585bO84610aHope, Laura Lee.14aThe Outdoor Girls in army service, or, Doing their bit for the soldier boys /cby Laura Lee Hope.0 aNew York :bGrosset & Dunlap,cc1918. a212 p. :bill. ;c20 cm.0 aOutdoor girls series.00497nam 2200157Ii 4500001000800000005001700008008004100025040001800066090002100084100002700105245007900132260004300211300002900254490003000283830002600313281042319880329145958.0770317s1914 xx j 00011 eng d aMNLcMNLdBGU aPS3511.L78bG75810aFlower, Jessie Graham.10aGrace Harlowe's second year at Overton College /cby Jessie Graham Flower.0 aPhiladelphia :bHenry Altemus,cc1914. a248 p. :bill. ;c19 cm.1 aThe college girls series. 0aCollege girls series.00765nam 22002291 4500001000800000005001700008008004100025035002100066906004500087010001700132035002000149040001900169050002100188100003400209245005100243260003700294300001900331500007100350700004400421985002100465991004900486960383219980421190136.0850703s1846 nyu 000 1 fre 9(DLC) 03029683 a7bcbccoclcrplduencipf19gy-gencatlg a 03029683 a(OCoLC)12231807 aDLCcNBuUdDLC00aPQ2228b.A1 18461 aDumas, Alexandre,d1802-1870.14aLes trois mousquetaires,cpar Alexandre Dumas. aNew York,bP. Gaillardet,c1846. a268 p.c26 cm. aAt head of title: Semaine littâeraire du Courrier des âEtats-Unis.2 aLe Courrier des âEtats-Unis,cNew York. eOCLC REPLACEMENT bc-GenCollhPQ2228i.A1 1846tCopy 1wOCLCREP00568nam 2200169I 4500001000800000005001700008008004100025010001300066040002400079050001400103100002000117245006200137260004200199300006900241500005000310600003800360492931019880421065446.0790504s1912 enkcfh b 00110 eng a13012350 aDLCcAMHdm.c.dm/c0 aPR4156.T510aThomas, Edward.10aGeorge Borrow,bthe man and his books,cby Edward Thomas.0 aLondon,bChapman & Hall, ltd.,c1912. axi, 333, viii p., 1 ¾.bfront., plates, ports., facsims.c23 cm. a"Bibliography of George Borrow": p.[323]-333.10aBorrow, George Henry,d1803-1881. The above are for these entries: 1. Celsissimus (German) http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/13953 gbn0403071608: Arthur Achleitner, Celsissimus (german). user@host. 1902p. 3/21/2004. ok. (that's a cleared2.gbn clearance line) 2. The Pocket George Borrow http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/13957 OK 20041030020123thomas The Pocket George Borrow Edward Thomas 1912:c 3. Les trois mousquetaires (French) http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/13951 OK 20041019125907dumas Les trois mousquetaires Alexandre Dumas 1844:p 4. Grace Harlowe's Second Year at Overton College http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/6858 gbn520: Grace Harlowe's Second Year at Overton College, Jessie Graham Flower user@host. 1914c. 9/13/2002. ok. (that's a cleared.gbn , really old clearance line) 5. The Outdoor Girls in Army Service, Or, doing their bit for the soldier boys http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/7494 gbn560g: The Outdoor Girls in Army Service, Laura Lee Hope. user@host. 1918c. 9/10/2002. ok. gbn568: Laura Lee Hope, The Outdoor Girls in Army Service. user@host. 1918c. 9/13/2002. ok. (cleared twice, but looks like the same edition) 6. Camp and Trail, A Story of the Maine Woods http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/13946 OK 20040825223614hornibrook Camp and Trail Isabel Hornibrook 1897:c 7. The Authoritative Life of General William Booth http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/13958 gbn0403190519: G[eorge] S[cott] Railton, The Authoritative Life of General William Booth. user@host. 1912c. 3/23/2004. ok. 8. The Lady of the Lake http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/3011 The Lady of the Lake Walter Scott J. C. Byers 11/23/99 ok 82-83c (this cleared line is from Michael's Xeroxes) 9. Lippincott's Magazine of Popular Literature and Science, Vol. XVII. No. 101. May, 1876. http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/13956 gbn0405261819: various, Lippincott's Magazine v. 17 Jan-June 1875. user@host. 1876c. 5/26/2004. ok. OK 20040808141522various Lippincott's Magazine v. 17 Jan-Jun 1876 various 1876:c (two clearances for this, too. We often clear entire year-long or multi-year volumes for periodicals based on a single TP&V scan) 10. Punch, or the London Charivari, Vol. 152, June 27, 1917 1917 Almanack http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/13954 gbn0402060846: Various, Punch - Vol. 152.. user@host. 1917p. 2/6/2004. ok. And, just for fun: Title Author Date Publisher Note Editor Call Number Corporate Author Description Edition Illustrator ISBN ISSN Language LC Call Number Main Series Subject Heading Gone with the wind Mitchell, Margaret; Herman Finkelstein Collection (Library of Congress); Alfred Whital Stern Collection of Lincolniana (Library of Congress) 1936 Macmillan "Published May 1936"--Verso of t.p. Actual publication of the 1st ed. was delayed to June 30, 1936. Cf. Gone with the wind as book and film / Richard Harwell. c1983. P. [xv].; LC copy has dust jacket. Newspaper clipping from the Parade section, Oct. 31, 1976 and magazine clipping from Publishers weekly, Sept. 6, 1976 on author laid in.; Source: Gift of Herman Finkelstein, Dec. 30, 1980. (none) PS3525.I972 (none) 1037 p. 22 cm. (none) (none) (none) (none) eng (none) (none) Women

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Re: [gutvol-d] MARC to the catalog
by D. Starner 10 Nov '04

10 Nov '04

Marcello Perathoner writes: > TODO Check > copyright status of LoC database !!!) It was created by employees of the US federal government in the course of their work for the government. It's public domain. -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm

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