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Re: [gutvol-d] DOWNLOADING STARTS AT GOOGLE BOOK SEARCH
by Joshua Hutchinson 06 Sep '06

06 Sep '06

> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeroen Hellingman (Mailing List Account)" <jeroen.mailinglist(a)bohol.ph> > The quality of the scanning work is often not very good How responsive is Google to reports of missing/obscured pages? For instance, when I've found similar issues at Cornell's digital archives, the most I've received back is a "Thanks for letting us know" and nothing ever got fixed. (And I don't always even get the "thanks" reply) Josh

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Fwd: [webgroup] Ibiblio server move
by Greg Newby 05 Sep '06

05 Sep '06

I believe the server that hosts gutenberg.org will be included in the planned outage. -- Greg ----- Forwarded message from Ken Chestnutt <ken(a)metalab.unc.edu> ----- From: Ken Chestnutt <ken(a)metalab.unc.edu> To: webgroup(a)lists.ibiblio.org Subject: [webgroup] Ibiblio server move Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 15:30:40 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: gbnewby(a)pglaf.org Delivered-To: webgroup(a)lists.ibiblio.org Precedence: list Errors-To: webgroup-bounces(a)lists.ibiblio.org Hi folks, As you may have noticed from previous emails, ibiblio is in the middle of migrating it's servers from one data center to another. This weekend's final piece of the move is the one that impacts the most people. You can take heart in the fact the previous two moves went well with only a few minor inconveniences. To facilitate the move, we will be turning off access to our servers on Friday, September 8, starting at 6:00 pm EDT (2200 GMT). Access will denied until Saturday, September 9 at 6:00 pm (2200 GMT). We do not expect access to be denied for this long but we are giving ourselves a large window in which to clean up any problems that may arise. This means you will not be able to check your email nor modify your website while we are migrating the servers. Your collection will still be available during most of the move, you will simply be unable to modify them. This is to give us the ability to do one final data synchronization from the servers in our old facility to the servers in our new facility. The only downtime you will experience will be the time the database server is actually being moved. Feel free to add a notice to your website warning your users of the possible interruption. You will not have to do anything UNLESS you manage your own DNS record. If you manage your own DNS record, you will need to repoint your IP address from 152.2.210.81 to 152.46.7.81 on Friday evening. If you have any questions or concerns, please drop us an email at help(a)ibiblio.org. Thanks ken Ken Chestnutt System Administrator ibiblio.org _______________________________________________ webgroup mailing list webgroup(a)lists.ibiblio.org http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/webgroup ----- End forwarded message -----

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Re: Search by subject for ebooks?
by Wallace J.McLean 05 Sep '06

05 Sep '06

Would it be possible for some clever script-writer out there to be able to set up something that would harvest LOC/AMICUS subject lines, based on inputting the Dewey or LOC call number or cat number?

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DOWNLOADING STARTS AT GOOGLE BOOK SEARCH
by Michael Hart 04 Sep '06

04 Sep '06

Google's controversial Book Search program is set to begin offering downloads of entire out-of-copyright texts. Until now, books in the program were available online only. With the option to download texts, users can now easily search those texts, print copies of them, or keep local copies on their computers to read offline. Books still under copyright protection are not available for download. Instead, small sections of text are online for users to view, unless the copyright owner grants Google permission to show more text. Many publishers and others have objected to Google's model, saying that even scanning copyrighted books and displaying snippets of them violates their copyright. Sidney Verba, director of the Harvard University Library, one of the libraries participating in the program, said that the ability to search texts allows users to "find previously buried information about historical events or people, places of interest, and matters cultural or scientific." Wall Street Journal, 30 August 2006 (sub. req'd) http://online.wsj.com/article/SB115694354228349458.html Can anyone get me the whole article? Thanks! michael

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I received this statistic a while back,
by Wallace J.McLean 04 Sep '06

04 Sep '06

Not sure if those numbers are accurate, or even how anyone would have been able to come up with them, but that proportion actually looks high to my eyes. I did an experiment a while back involving books by authors who died in 1950. My sample size wasn't huge, but I did try to (a) include as many non-famous as well as famous authors who died that year, and (b) track down the title of every full-fledged book that they had published, in Canada, the UK, or the US. Then I tracked down every discrete edition I could find, including translations, adaptations, and video adaptations, as well as, in a separate category, "special editions", into which I lumped the PG editions of works that are cropping up in library catalogs, and audio or digital books prepared most likely under exemptions for the blind and visually impaired. In 1950 — the year in which the authors in question died — 12% of their collected works were still in "print" (i.e., available in all editions but "special", supra), or would be in print again at some time in the next fifty years. By 2000, the last year these works are in copyright in the life+50 universe, which is, propaganda notwithstand, most of Earth, that figure was 1.2%. After I enlarged my sample, the proportions didn't change that much, so I think the Law of Large Numbers is at work. I haven't yet constructed a model that accounts for works going out of, and then coming back into print; this model assumes that if a work was in print in 1994, it was also in print in every year going back to first publication. Given that there was a HUGE explosion of publishing in the second half of the 20th century, at least in Canada, and I'd be willing to bet in most of the developed world as well, if not the under-developed too, and that few of those works have enjoyed more than one edition, the 1/16 ratio of in-print&copyrighted to all-ever-published&copyrighted, is probably an over-estimate. I'd like to keep doing some research on this front, but I'm not sure I have time. It is, however, something that could probably be done in a distributed fashion. Anyone who's interested, talk to me. ----- Original Message ----- >From Michael Hart <hart(a)pglaf.org> Date Mon, 4 Sep 2006 09:03:16 -0700 (PDT) To The gutvol-d Mailing List <gutvol-d(a)lists.pglaf.org> Subject [gutvol-d] I received this statistic a while back, that only 2 million of 32 million books under copyright are actually in print. Does anyone know the source? Thanks!!!

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I received this statistic a while back,
by Michael Hart 04 Sep '06

04 Sep '06

that only 2 million of 32 million books under copyright are actually in print. Does anyone know the source? Thanks!!! mh

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32 Million (C) Books/2 Million In Print
by Michael Hart 04 Sep '06

04 Sep '06

I received this statistic a while back, that only 2 million of 32 million books under copyright are actually in print. Does anyone know the source? Thanks!!! mh

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Project Gutenberg in Georgia
by Andrew Sly 02 Sep '06

02 Sep '06

It's nice to see mention of Project Gutenberg in this article: http://www.macon.com/mld/macon/news/local/states/georgia/counties/houston_p… Andrew

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Google: Download the classics
by Tony Baechler 01 Sep '06

01 Sep '06

Hello all. Sorry if this is old news. Considering the recent discussions on the list about Google, I thought you might find this interesting. From what I can tell by the urls, they are using the LCCN for at least some titles. I also couldn't help but notice that PG already has some of these if not all. The following is from the official Google blog: Posted by Adam Mathes, Associate Product Manager, Google Book Search Starting today, you can go to [Google Book Search][1] and download full copies of out-of-copyright books to read at your own pace. You're free to choose from a diverse collection of public domain titles -- from well-known classics to obscure gems. Before the rise of the public library -??? a story chronicled in this 1897 edition of [The Free Library][2] ??? access to large collections of books was the privilege of a wealthy minority. Now, with the help of our wonderful [library partners][3], we're able to offer you the ability to download and read PDF versions of out-of-copyright books from some of the world???s greatest collections. Using Google Book Search, you can find The Free Library and many other extraordinary old books, such as: * Ferriar's [The Bibliomania][4] * A futurist from 1881's [1931: A Glance at the Twentieth Century][5] * Aesop's [Fables][6][][7] * Shakespeare's [Hamlet][8] * Abbott's [Flatland][9] * Hugo's [Marion De Lorme][10] * Dunant's [Eine Erinnerung an Solferino][11] * Bol??var's [Proclamas][12] * Dante's [Inferno][13] To find out-of-copyright books that you can download, simply select the "Full view" radio button when you search on books.google.com. (Please note that we do not enable downloading of any book currently under copyright. Unless we have the publisher???s permission to show more, we display only small snippets of text ???- at most, two or three sentences surrounding your search term -??? to help you determine if you???ve found what you???re looking for.) Of course, this is just the beginning. As we digitize more of the world's books -- whether rare, common, popular or obscure -- people everywhere will be able to discover them on Google Book Search. [1]: http://books.google.com/ (Google Book Search) [2]: http://books.google.com/books?vid=LCCN02006048&id=AJCpexX5NUMC&pg=PA3 (The Free Library) [3]: http://books.google.com/googlebooks/partners.html (library partners) [4]: http://books.google.com/books?vid=HARVARD32044024329419&pg=PA3 (The Bibliomania) [5]: http://books.google.com/books?vid=UOM39015004715002&pg=PA1 (Glance at the 20th century) [6]: http://books.google.com/books?vid=OCLC03465111&printsec=titlepage (Fables) [7]: http://books.google.com/books?vid=OCLC05716993&printsec=titlepage (Principia) [8]: http://books.google.com/books?vid=OCLC14763089&id=2-iPD1DrwgYC&pg=PA3 (Hamlet) [9]: http://books.google.com/books?vid=0PO8Zb8GuSvhGZx2&id=u8HOxy7lQYUC&printsec… (Flatland) [10]: http://books.google.com/books?vid=OCLC12330174&id=ZEGJW5a0IfoC&pg=PP11 (Marion De Lorme) [11]: http://books.google.com/books?vid=HARVARD32044012475109&printsec=titlepage (Eine Erinnerung an Solferino) [12]: http://books.google.com/books?id=W162EMZdSVwC&vid=HARVARD32044048104251&jtp… (Proclamas) [13]: http://books.google.it/books?vid=OCLC13779284&id=iQ5Glx7BGZkC&printsec=titl… (Inferno) URL: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2006/08/download-classics.html ----- End forwarded message -----

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PG Wiki
by Aaron Cannon 01 Sep '06

01 Sep '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Marcello and all. Any word on when the static content on Gutenberg.org will be done away with and replaced by the wiki? Also, congratulations Italy! That was an intense game. :) Sincerely Aaron Cannon - -- Skype: cannona MSN/Windows Messenger: cannona(a)hotmail.com (don't send email to the hotmail address.) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32) - GPGrelay v0.959 Comment: Key available from all major key servers. iD8DBQFEsXr7I7J99hVZuJcRAi4SAJ9VGglvtmHeHrqaq8xGjtDgyKTckwCgo2Ow eWxF9+N2OTZk7QHmv6Qof7Y= =/56y -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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