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ebooks libre et gratuits
by Norm Wolcott 27 Jun '06

27 Jun '06

Ebooks libre et gratuits had an arrangement with MH apparently where their books would appear on PG eventually. Now that the ebooks web site is no more, what will happen to the ebooksgratuits which did not make it to PG? Will all of this work have to be repeated by someone else? Is there an archive anywhere of this enormous quantitiiy of work? Why did ebooksgratuits disappear? Pressure from Canadian publishers/ government? Is there an unknown story here? nwolcott2(a)post.harvard.edu

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re: [gutvol-d] the end of the line
by Bowerbird＠aol.com 27 Jun '06

27 Jun '06

jeroen said: > Although I agree with Michael that there is no need > to preserve things as linebreaks in most texts -- ok, well you and michael agree. that's good. :+) but what do you say to end-users who want that info? somehow, "tough luck, kid, _we_ don't think it's necessary" doesn't sound like the kind of thing _i_ want to tell people. because that's the type of statement that makes people go off to a different cyberlibrary. that's my whole point. (and to all of the other people who responded on similar "theoretical" grounds, i'm truly sorry you missed the point.) > if you really need to go to that level of detail, there > is always the original or the scans to fall back upon well, neither of those gives you the flexibility of digital text. but yes, a tight coupling of the two forms is the best method. you will note that those "digital reprints" from jose menendez allow a reader to summon the scan of the page with one click. (since the page already looks like the scan anyway, there might be little reason to do it, though, except to verify that similarity. but this constant willingness to demonstrate the verisimilitude will be the proof that makes people comfortable with the use of the smaller-sized digital reprint, with its expanded functionality, as opposed to the bigger, slower, dumber collection of scans. anyone who has proofread a scan against reflowed text knows the reflowing makes that task immensely more difficult though, so you'll never attain the same confidence in the text's accuracy.) > I want to make a case for preserving page numbers, > if not at least as recognisable anchors in text, and only for > those books being referenced to regularly by other books. page-numbers are retained in many e-texts these days... but i'm sure you remember we all had this same argument about page-numbers. i'm confident that -- down the line -- sentiment will similarly change to be in favor of line-breaks. in general, i've just been content to wait it out until the change; but seeing all the e-texts as they cross my screen downloading made me realize again the sadness of the discarded line-breaks. > This excludes most fiction, but is particularly important for > scientific works, which have constructed a kind of paper web > with cross references mainly based on page numbers. there are plenty of cross-references made to works of fiction. and the concept of "books reading each other" would require that _all_ of our books are brought under the same umbrella... > In long term, such references of course should give way to proper > references to the actual paragraph or sentence being referenced good! you recognize the need for a finer-grained pointer than the page. because that's the kind of thinking that leads to line-break retention. you can narrow things down rather specifically when you point to the range that's represented from page-19-line-7 to page-21-line-14, or from page-87-line-6 to page-87-line-8, can't you? not only that, this kind of reference also works for the person who only has the paper copy of the book, not the e-book, if the two are duplicates of each other. and that's precisely the type of capability i'll have in my viewer-program. even in a traditional browser, it wouldn't be hard to implement something roughly equivalent, though. the user could specify some text with a link, and after going to the precise point of the link, the browser could then execute a "find" command for the specified text. it wouldn't be hard at all, and would seem to give a rather exact form of pointing to a specific place. it has the benefit of being implemented entirely outside of the document, as well, which i see as being tremendously important. if all our links need markup in the original document to be implemented, as is the present case, we're _never_ going to be able to quickly get to a point of profuse interlinks. we'll get thoroughly bogged down in the quicksand of heavy markup first... (for an example of that, take a look at the markup which jon noring posted, and then read through that particular diversion of this thread. the horrors!) > but as a practical ad-interim solution, staying with page numbers will > increase the number of texts we can digitize with our limited means. it doesn't cost anything to retain the line-break information. > I would however, like to see the collection be incorporated in a kind of > wiki-like system, where people can add -- without tampering with the static > source texts -- annotations, add tagging and create live cross references i've had a demo up for some time now showing "continuous proofreading". > http://users.aol.com/bowerbird/proof_wiki.html i also used a similar template in these demo-books: > http://www.greatamericannovel.com/mabie/mabiep001.html > http://www.greatamericannovel.com/myant/myantc001.html > http://www.greatamericannovel.com/ahmmw/ahmmwc001.html > http://www.greatamericannovel.com/sgfhb/sgfhbc001.html this system could easily be elaborated upon to build what you requested here. indeed, i will be pouring all of the p.g. texts that i'll be handling -- perhaps some 5000-6000, as near as i can tell -- into just this type of system, within the next 6 months, and i would be open to any ideas that you might have... heck, design a webpage to do what you want, and i will use it as the template. you know me, i don't even care if it "validates", as long as it's easy and it works. *** andrew said: > There are places such as wikisource.org, where you could add the texts > and start providing links such as you mention here immediately. i'll check out wikisource.org to see what kind of capabilities they offer. in the past, when i've looked at existing sites, it has seemed that wikis aren't geared to do things -- like populate pages -- on a massive scale. even rather fundamental things like batch f.t.p. are sometimes missing. and when you're dealing with thousands, or tens of thousands, of files, it becomes absolutely necessary to deal with them in a template fashion. i also think there's a good reason jeroen asked for a "wiki-like system", and not a wiki per se, as indicated by his concern about "tampering" with the static source texts. the thought is that the original source -- and indeed, the string of comments as well -- must be inviolate. that's because the idea is to build a body of thought around a text, of which links -- intrasystem, and outgoing and incoming -- are a very crucial aspect. and it's not possible to link into a wiki proper, because what was there yesterday might well be gone today, only to reappear in different form tomorrow. you can't link into a pile of sand. oh sure, you could instruct users to leave link markup untouched. and they might even follow your instructions. (yeah, right.) still, that will interfere with refactoring, and get very crufty before long. besides, a good part of the give-and-take of this kind of conversation involves letting all of the arguments stand, rather than editing them. (and especially rather than "editing them by deletion".) let the future examine all the arguments, and see which ones stand the test of time. so you need to have stability for the process itself, not just for the links. -bowerbird p.s. jeroen, if you want to provide me a template, i could use it sooner rather than later, the better to architect it into my overall work-flow...

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EbooksGratuits online
by pat 27 Jun '06

27 Jun '06

Hi, I am Patrick from ebooksgratuits 1/ As Carlo told you, thank you very much for being concerned by what happened to us. Now, we have moved www.ebooksgratuits.com to a very robust provider, and we will have a mirror soon at www.ebooksgratuits.org , so that it does not happen again. We have now collected some funds through a paypal button and can afford to secure our website. Such a predicament is indeed quite painful. 2/ Moreover,as our clearance process (to use a PG word) is quite light, we are not in a position to justify the life +50 rule on some of our books (some translators especially are hard to find out), which is not something that PG would not want, to mirror help 3/ We have now transferred around 160 books to PG thanks to huge recent help (Chuck Greif) and the enduring patience of Tonya. We are now going on more slowly, as the problem is to find out the sources that can be cleared. 4/ Should we disappear again, be aware that you can also have access plenty of our files through P2P (edonkey/emule), search on "ebooksgratuits". --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface révolutionnaire.

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Re: !@!Re: [gutvol-d] ebooks libre et gratuits (fwd)
by Greg Newby 26 Jun '06

26 Jun '06

We could probably run a mirror of this... is anyone in touch with the folks (perhaps in French)? It would take some cooperation from their end (such as an rsync server) to run a good mirror. -- Greg > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 10:25:19 -0400 > From: Janet Kegg <jmk(a)his.com> > To: Project Gutenberg Volunteer Discussion <gutvol-d(a)pglaf.org> > Subject: Re: [gutvol-d] ebooks libre et gratuits > > > The site is now available again: http://www.ebooksgratuits.com/ > > See the front page of the Web site for what I believe (my French is > almost nonexistent) is an explanation of what happened. > > On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 09:58:58 -0400, you wrote: > > >Ebooks libre et gratuits had an arrangement with MH apparently where their > >books would appear on PG eventually. Now that the ebooks web site is no > >more, what will happen to the ebooksgratuits which did not make it to PG? > >Will all of this work have to be repeated by someone else? Is there an > >archive anywhere of this enormous quantitiiy of work? Why did > >ebooksgratuits disappear? Pressure from Canadian publishers/ government? > >Is there an unknown story here? > > > >nwolcott2(a)post.harvard.edu > _______________________________________________ > gutvol-d mailing list > gutvol-d(a)lists.pglaf.org > http://lists.pglaf.org/listinfo.cgi/gutvol-d

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Re: [gutvol-d] Automated readability scores for PG eBooks
by David Starner 26 Jun '06

26 Jun '06

On 6/26/06, Scott Lawton <scott_bulkmail(a)productarchitect.com> wrote: > While I agree that it would not be worth adding readability score if it had much > impact on these and other worthy goals, But if it doesn't, then those goals aren't reasons _for_ adding it. > There are lots and lots of cool things that could be done with the catalog. We could start with the results of stripping the header and running wc on it. That strikes me at least as useful as this result. Also, the ten or twelve most common words in the book after stripping the ten or twelve most common words in the English language. > Even in the context of the above, the scores would provide a great starting point for > being improved with manual cataloging and literacy labeling. I don't think so. It's downright useless for manual cataloging, as it only handles that one dimension. I don't think it will help literacy labeling much, either, which is best done manually. > Don't let the perfect stand in the way of the good. But I don't think having these numbers anywhere prominent is good. Right now our pages only have a few pieces of important information; minutia like this should go to a page linked to a page linked only from the book page, which we can fill with various stats to our hearts content. It also seems a little weird to have some proprietary reading level numbers on the system, instead of the Fog index or the Flesch-Kincaid Readability tests. It feels like an advertisement.

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re: [gutvol-d] Automated readability scores for PG eBooks
by Bowerbird＠aol.com 26 Jun '06

26 Jun '06

david said: > We could start with the results of stripping the header and the "footer", where most of the legalese is these days. does anyone here know the best way to strip both of them? > Also, the ten or twelve most common words in the book after > stripping the ten or twelve most common words in the English language. you'd need to strip more than a dozen. below is a list from wikipedia. there's a strong power-law in word usage. unless you strip 200-500 common words, it probably won't reveal anything very interesting... -bowerbird > http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Frequency_lists Here are the top 100 words (from Project Gutenberg texts) in alphabetical order: a about after all an and any are as at be been before but by can could did do down first for from good great had has have he her him his I if in into is it its know like little made man may me men more mr much must my no not now of on one only or other our out over said see she should so some such than that the their them then there these they this time to two up upon us very was we were what when which who will with would you your

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re: [gutvol-d] the end of the line
by Bowerbird＠aol.com 26 Jun '06

26 Jun '06

jon said: > Well, since I sort of initiated this sub-thread um, you mean since you _hijacked_ the thread... just had to talk about your shiny markup, didn't you? what a debilitating distraction... the need to retain line-breaks has nothing to do with markup. (and your example, which shows the absurd lengths to which a markup mentality will drive a person, was very illuminating, as is all the technoid jargon-jabbering in this "sub-thread".) p.g. introduces its own linebreaks into its plain-ascii e-texts, all without ever entering the markup arena. and i put in my own line-breaks, right here in these posts to this listserve, again without using any markup at all, just the return key. i'll bring this thread back to relevance starting tomorrow... -bowerbird

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Automated readability scores for PG eBooks
by Greg Newby 26 Jun '06

26 Jun '06

Feedback/input would be valued. I've been corresopnding with Simon Ronald at RocketReader.com to see about integrating readability scores into the main PG book catalog. Because we don't have a lot of subject cataloging, one value of this is that it does a good job of identifing children's eBooks (they tend to be "easy"). This is also usable for people seeking to develop literacy or provide literacy instruction, by providing a way of reading something "harder" or "easier" as desired. Take a look at the list below (ten hardest, then ten easiest). The first score is overall, followed by a set of scores that made it up. I had provided some earlier feedback on how "hard" books were not necessarily prose, which is part of what Dr. Ronald is responding to. If you have feedback on the results, or my idea for adding these scores as an element of the catalog search results, please chime in! -- Greg ----- Forwarded message from "Dr. Simon Ronald" ----- Subject: Further Readability Results Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:34:26 +0930 Hello Greg, Here are some further "hardest and easiest" books based on a recent run. The run required 1 hour and 49 minutes to complete. This run classified 15,099 books - being a full scan of the English books. We incorporated a ordered list detection algorithm - some of the books contained (sometimes very noisy) lists of items - we found 162 books in total that were list based. It should be noted that we classified the entire book as list or "not list" based on a threshold -> if the book was a list then each separate line was considered a sentence for the purposes of readability. In time we will incorporate intra book list detection to allow the readability methodology to vary depending on the context within the book. It should also be noted that some of the HTML versions may well contain markup hints such as the use of the <ol> or <ul> HTML tag, we could use these and other tags to improve the quality of sentence chunking. Each entry has a series of 12 percentiles listed after the main readability percentile. These percentiles correspond to the 12 readability attributes in this order. bigword density short word density (-) wordsPerSentences syllablesPerWords profainwordsPerWords numbersPerWords mostCommon1000WordsPerWord (-) commascharsPerWords wordsPerParagraphs letterFrequencyDistributionError adjacentLetterPairsFrequencyDistributionError uniqueStemmedWordsPerWord; 99.914 95 90 95 97 0 79 86 84 79 88 85 90 Note on the Resemblances and Differences in the Structure and the Development of the Brain in Man and Apes (etext2354) 99.907 96 93 90 98 0 71 96 94 49 80 70 96 Original Letters and Biographic Epitomes (etext13203) 99.907 89 86 96 88 95 82 71 94 81 80 67 67 The Great Conspiracy, Volume 7 (etext7139) 99.904 85 87 93 86 0 86 97 75 78 88 78 99 A Biography of Edmund Spenser (etext6937) 99.897 92 90 95 92 88 69 76 90 80 48 60 78 Memoirs of the Court of St. Cloud (Being secret letters from a gentleman at Paris to a nobleman in London) \xe2\x8 0\x94 Volume 1 (etext3892) 99.897 82 92 32 87 88 93 98 87 68 93 83 85 Graf von Loeben and the Legend of Lorelei (etext11066) 99.894 96 93 89 98 80 91 84 97 84 88 36 27 The Modern Regime, Volume 2 (etext2582) 99.887 92 88 73 90 92 82 77 89 45 97 67 76 An Enquiry Concerning the Principles of Taste, and of the Origin of our Ideas of Beauty, etc. (etext13485) 99.887 91 89 88 92 0 64 75 99 96 88 67 96 Giordano Bruno (etext4228) 99.884 99 95 92 99 88 79 84 34 87 66 70 74 Monism as Connecting Religion and Science (etext9199) 99.881 93 91 75 92 94 64 67 77 94 88 67 80 Rise of the Dutch Republic, the \xe2\x80\x94 Volume 22: 1574-76 (etext4824) 99.874 91 92 23 93 80 80 98 95 70 80 91 74 The Principal Navigations, Voyages, Traffiques and Discoveries of the English Nation \xe2\x80\x94 Volume 01 (etext7182) 99.868 97 95 74 99 97 81 91 77 64 27 36 78 Gilbertus Anglicus (etext16155) 99.868 86 95 63 86 0 98 90 89 50 93 89 80 Cessions of Land by Indian Tribes to the United States: Illustrated by Those in the State of Indiana^M (etext17148 ) 99.858 87 87 95 87 80 56 79 93 63 66 83 73 An Essay towards Fixing the True Standards of Wit, Humour, Railery, Satire, and Ridicule (1744) (etext16233) 99.858 91 96 71 90 95 99 99 99 3 2 85 65 Noteworthy Families (Modern Science) (etext17128) 99.858 99 99 5 99 95 92 99 99 68 0 81 87 Roget's Thesaurus of English Words and Phrases (etext10681) 99.854 97 92 89 98 0 83 81 79 95 97 60 57 Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte (etext1346) 99.844 99 99 84 99 80 98 93 14 61 88 83 55 Venereal Diseases in New Zealand (1922) (etext15352) 99.844 96 91 98 96 88 80 74 98 97 66 64 9 Act, Declaration, & Testimony for the Whole of our Covenanted Reformation, as Attained to, and Established in Britain and Ireland; Particularly Betwixt the Years 1638 and 1649, Inclusive (etext13200) 99.844 90 89 96 90 0 79 78 69 87 66 70 97 Dr. Bullivant (etext9249) 99.831 90 88 94 89 80 71 61 96 90 66 30 72 Memoirs of the Court of St. Cloud (Being secret letters from a gentleman at Paris to a nobleman in London) \xe2\x8 0\x94 Volume 7 (etext3898) 99.831 99 99 87 99 99 92 88 27 54 93 94 34 Three Contributions to the Theory of Sex (etext14969) 99.831 95 88 91 92 80 61 67 72 83 93 64 70 Superstition Unveiled (etext15696) 99.831 95 93 45 97 80 89 97 94 43 13 72 80 Aboriginal American Authors (etext9188) 99.824 89 92 88 88 0 90 92 56 54 80 94 84 Transactions of the American Society of Civil Engineers, Vol. LXVIII, Sept. 1910 (etext18012) 99.824 87 99 40 90 0 99 95 94 3 88 92 97 On the Origin of Species (etext8205) 99.798 91 89 93 90 88 69 60 89 86 48 47 74 Memoirs of the Court of St. Cloud (Being secret letters from a gentleman at Paris to a nobleman in London) \xe2\x8 0\x94 Volume 3 (etext3894) 99.798 90 87 85 88 0 81 64 96 84 48 81 94 The Lives of the Twelve Caesars, Volume 11: Titus (etext6396) 99.798 90 86 97 90 0 81 76 90 94 27 76 82 The evolution of English lexicography (etext11694) 99.798 73 81 96 78 98 56 54 95 72 66 89 96 A Modest Proposal (etext1080) 99.798 95 96 41 97 0 95 96 79 54 98 78 78 Webster's March 7th Speech/Secession (etext1663) 99.798 91 92 47 92 92 50 87 87 87 66 64 89 Rise of the Dutch Republic, the \xe2\x80\x94 Volume 01: Introduction I (etext4801) 99.798 88 86 77 88 95 50 73 73 97 80 72 83 Rise of the Dutch Republic, the \xe2\x80\x94 Volume 26: 1577, part III (etext4828) 99.785 95 85 98 90 88 75 71 92 94 66 56 32 The Auchensaugh Renovation of the National Covenant and (etext12381) 99.785 93 92 81 92 88 92 85 98 84 80 24 16 The Modern Regime, Volume 1 (etext2581) 99.785 70 78 92 75 92 81 79 94 87 48 52 82 The Mayflower and Her Log; July 15, 1620-May 6, 1621 \xe2\x80\x94 Volume 5 (etext4105) Easiest 4.176 2 1 11 2 0 0 1 36 9 48 78 11 The Song of the Blood-Red Flower (etext12935) 4.176 0 0 11 0 0 0 15 48 8 2 94 6 Six Little Bunkers at Grandma Bell's (etext14623) 4.176 14 8 27 12 0 0 9 15 10 27 41 7 Melbourne House, Volume 2 (etext12964) 4.176 7 3 6 4 0 0 5 3 9 66 86 23 The Romantic (etext13292) 4.176 17 5 14 10 0 0 1 12 48 48 6 23 The Girl from Montana (etext15274) 4.176 7 6 13 7 0 0 11 27 22 27 56 9 Jess of the Rebel Trail (etext15382) 4.176 5 3 8 3 0 0 0 2 45 66 60 25 Stories of American Life and Adventure (etext15597) 4.176 3 8 13 6 0 0 12 3 72 1 78 13 Kazan (etext10084) 4.176 11 5 8 8 0 0 12 1 9 48 94 11 The Second Honeymoon (etext17446) 4.176 13 9 10 12 0 0 13 8 3 48 36 23 The Circus Boys on the Plains : or, the Young Advance Agents Ahead of the Show (etext2478) 4.176 19 11 11 15 0 0 10 26 42 27 9 1 The Captives (etext3601) 4.176 0 1 12 1 0 0 2 3 49 27 90 29 Old Granny Fox (etext4980) 4.176 0 0 6 0 0 0 2 0 19 27 89 54 Sleepy-Time Tales: the Tale of Fatty Coon (etext5701) 4.176 0 0 12 1 0 0 10 6 31 2 93 40 The Adventures of Johnny Chuck (etext5844) 4.176 2 3 11 3 0 0 7 1 12 5 85 54 Tale of Brownie Beaver (etext6754) 4.176 12 7 19 8 0 0 9 7 55 5 52 13 The City of Fire (etext7008) 4.176 23 9 10 15 0 0 13 16 18 13 3 29 The Man with Two Left Feet^M (etext7471) 4.176 4 5 13 5 0 0 8 15 40 5 80 21 Way of the Lawless (etext9903) 3.931 11 7 11 8 0 0 14 7 36 2 85 9 The Hunted Woman (etext11328) 3.931 4 1 14 2 0 0 1 34 44 27 64 3 Mary Marie (etext11143) 3.931 12 8 22 11 0 0 10 20 15 13 41 13 Contrary Mary (etext17938) 3.931 0 0 3 0 0 0 0 1 0 98 97 29 The New McGuffey First Reader (etext1489) 3.931 4 7 18 6 0 0 7 33 21 13 56 9 Martin Pippin in the Apple Orchard (etext2032) 3.931 8 9 8 8 0 0 1 12 48 13 64 23 Twenty-Two Goblins (etext2290) 3.931 9 8 9 8 0 0 7 5 43 27 72 13 God's Country\xe2\x80\x94And the Woman (etext4585) 3.931 12 11 11 13 0 0 6 12 60 27 13 14 The Valley of Silent Men (etext4707) 3.931 5 2 23 3 0 0 6 16 10 13 80 23 The Boy Scout Camera Club, or, the Confession of a Photograph (etext7356) 3.931 8 9 15 10 0 0 17 4 6 5 81 21 Bob Cook and the German Spy (etext9899) 3.676 16 6 8 10 0 0 25 3 3 13 76 13 The Three Sisters (etext11876) 3.676 7 2 10 3 0 0 3 17 43 27 78 11 His Second Wife (etext17259) 3.676 6 5 17 6 0 0 14 33 24 5 60 3 Michael O'Halloran (etext9489) 3.384 12 7 6 10 0 0 28 0 20 27 13 32 The Sheriff's Son (etext17043) 3.384 1 0 17 1 0 0 9 36 11 5 88 9 The Bobbsey Twins in the Great West (etext5952) 3.384 6 3 7 4 0 0 3 24 20 13 52 34 Pan (etext7214) 3.384 0 0 5 0 0 0 2 1 20 5 93 59 Five Little Friends (etext7801) 3.384 0 1 7 1 0 0 13 0 11 1 88 53 The Tale of Sandy Chipmunk (etext9462) 3.109 0 0 6 0 0 0 0 19 0 2 93 50 Boy Blue and His Friends (etext16046) 3.109 8 3 10 4 0 0 1 30 19 27 75 6 Wanderers (etext7762) 2.874 1 2 56 2 0 0 0 33 32 2 9 5 Twilight Land (etext1751) 2.874 0 0 13 0 0 0 11 38 9 1 91 6 The Curlytops on Star Island (etext5989) 2.666 0 0 10 0 0 0 6 44 9 13 76 7 The Bobbsey Twins at Home (etext18420) 2.666 0 0 34 0 0 0 0 1 43 48 64 5 The King of Ireland's Son (etext3495) 2.460 7 11 12 11 0 0 8 3 70 5 19 16 Baree, Son of Kazan (etext4748) 2.460 10 9 11 10 0 0 2 15 9 13 52 21 Samuel the Seeker (etext5961) 2.255 6 1 2 2 0 0 28 1 7 80 30 14 Plays (etext10623) 2.255 12 13 14 14 0 0 11 4 23 5 30 14 King of the Khyber Rifles (etext6066) 2.255 3 3 19 3 0 0 6 11 13 13 64 23 Riders of the Silences (etext9867) 1.917 4 2 7 3 0 0 11 4 7 48 89 6 Anne Severn and the Fieldings (etext10817) 1.785 0 0 15 0 0 0 0 9 13 5 72 36 Fifty Famous Stories Retold (etext18442) 1.507 8 4 17 6 0 0 21 0 24 13 19 16 The Light in the Clearing (etext14150) 1.507 9 7 21 8 0 0 3 2 30 27 13 14 Voyages of Dr. Dolittle (etext1154) 1.507 0 0 2 0 0 0 43 22 3 27 30 2 Six Plays (etext5618) 1.391 4 6 18 6 0 0 9 0 24 5 67 6 The Secret Garden (etext17396) 1.391 12 9 8 10 0 0 16 7 21 13 2 19 Black Jack (etext9925) 1.080 10 4 14 6 0 0 8 9 14 5 24 19 The Gay Cockade (etext16433) 0.742 4 4 14 4 0 0 5 3 55 2 6 16 Isobel : a Romance of the Northern Trail (etext6715) 0.440 0 0 5 0 0 0 2 2 0 1 97 16 Bunny Rabbit's Diary (etext16982) 0.281 6 3 6 4 0 0 22 2 8 5 19 6 Mary Olivier: a Life (etext9366) Cheers, Dr. Simon Ronald CEO The Leader in High Performance Reading Level 2, 25 Gresham Street, Adelaide, SA, Australia, 5000 GPO Box 944, Adelaide SA 5001 Ph. +61 8 8410 2771 Fax. +61 8 8125 6679 1133 Broadway, Suite 706 New York, NY 10010 Ph: (646) 736 7673 (New York) Ph: (415) 992 5412 (California) Fax: (877) 731 4410 (toll free) ____________________________________ ----- End forwarded message ----- ----- End forwarded message -----

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re: [gutvol-d] ebooks libre et gratuits
by Bowerbird＠aol.com 26 Jun '06

26 Jun '06

unlimited distribution rocks big time... major fucking concept... -bowerbird

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re: [gutvol-d] Automated readability scores for PG eBooks
by Bowerbird＠aol.com 26 Jun '06

26 Jun '06

greg said: > one value of this is that it does > a good job of identifing children's eBooks > (they tend to be "easy"). checklist said: > bigword density > short word density (-) > wordsPerSentences > syllablesPerWords > profainwordsPerWords > numbersPerWords > mostCommon1000WordsPerWord (-) > commascharsPerWords > wordsPerParagraphs > letterFrequencyDistributionError > adjacentLetterPairsFrequencyDistributionError > uniqueStemmedWordsPerWord; aren't scientists silly? :+) look, greg, if you want a list of children's e-books, or a list of "easy" e-books, or any kind of list of books, just ask the distributed proofreaders people for the list... they'll give you a long list of books, any kind of list you want, and you won't have to do one little bit of fancy-ass statistics... i'm serious, they can give a list with p.g. e-text numbers and meaningful notes, and funny little stories, and _everything_... much more vivid than your boring-ass statistics... :+) -bowerbird

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