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Fwd: Proposed CD Navigation Files now available for review
by Aaron Cannon 05 Feb '05

05 Feb '05

>From: "John Hagerson" <j.hagerson(a)comcast.net> >To: "'Aaron Cannon'" <cannona(a)fireantproductions.com> >Subject: Proposed CD Navigation Files now available for review >Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 08:04:16 -0600 >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 > >Four navigation files built for a new Project Gutenberg CD-ROM which >contains primarily non-English electronic books are now available for review >at http://www.aaronandgabby.com/pgcd/ The files allow one to browse the CD >by Author, Language and Author, Language and Title, or Title. > >The files were developed from the Project Gutenberg production prior to book >14700. The Distributed Proofreaders have been especially prolific in >non-English books recently, so it seems that a number of books of recent >production will be omitted regardless of where we draw the line. > >I believe I have included every non-English book produced prior to 14700 >with the exception of three books (7216, 7337, and 12407) where the title >and author were both in Unicode characters that most fonts do not support. >Each of the omitted works is in Chinese. If someone could help me obtain >more information on these works, there is ample space to include them. > >Please respond to the list or directly to mailto:j.hagerson@comcast.net with >your comments regarding the files. > >Thank you. > >Aaron: Before you forward this to the list, please make sure that the http >download works. My attempts to view the directory were met with a 403 error. >Thank you. -- E-mail: cannona(a)fireantproductions.com Skype: cannona MSN Messenger: cannona(a)hotmail.com (Do not send E-mail to the hotmail address.)

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Re Error Correction Data Needed
by Wallace J.McLean 03 Feb '05

03 Feb '05

I'm inclined to think that the 1/3 figure, AT MOST, may be closer to the truth. I've been working on a massive (300,000 word) publication for a number of years now. (It's FINALLY in pre-press, hooray!) My workflow was: handkey text (except for 16 pages I OCRd as a test.) Proofread 1 Attestation* 1 Proofread 2 Attestation* 2 Skimread (very superficial, but often you find stupid errors that way. Like the one on PAGE 1!!!) Software spellcheck Proofread 3 Readback** 1 Readback 2 And IIRC, Readback 3 * Attestation: Comparing my typescript to the original, word-by-word, phrase-by-phrase. ** Readback: After the HUGE error rates I was still getting after each prevous pass, I bought voice synthesis software, and had the work read back to me, while I followed along in the original. I've kept stats somewhere on the error catch-rate at each stage; I'll dig them up later. The caveat, of course, is that the only way for me to get "fresh eyes" on the project was to put it aside for a few weeks or months; I can't afford to hire someone else. The error rate on the last pass was so small that, even if I had only caught 30% of the remaining errors, the few that are statistically expectable are no longer worth it on the law of diminishing returns curve. ----- Original Message ----- >From Michael Hart <hart(a)pglaf.org> Date Fri, 28 Jan 2005 10:06:10 -0800 (PST) Subject [gutvol-d] Error Correction Data Needed [Please excuse cross-posting.] However, my most recent research, in conjunctions with the head of error correction at a major publisher, leads me to think 1/3 of errors might be found per pass, instead of the previous 1/2. If any of you have any suggestions as to what these figures are, please let me know.

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GREG NEWBY: Please check your e-mail!
by John Hagerson 03 Feb '05

03 Feb '05

Sorry for the broadcast, but other methods to reach Greg have been unsuccessful. Greg: Please look for messages from Aaron Cannon and John Hagerson. Thank you.

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Error Correction Data Needed
by Michael Hart 03 Feb '05

03 Feb '05

[Please excuse cross-posting.] I have been doing some additional research on error correction, particularly as it might apply to Project Gutenberg eBooks, but also in more general terms. In my previous thoughts on this subject I came to the conclusions that perhaps 1/2 of the errors present would/could/should be found via each additional proofreading pass, provided it was done by an external source to the previous proofreadings. [Proofreaders do tend to miss the same errors more often the second time around.] However, my most recent research, in conjunctions with the head of error correction at a major publisher, leads me to think 1/3 of errors might be found per pass, instead of the previous 1/2. If any of you have any suggestions as to what these figures are, please let me know. Thanks So Much!!! Michael S. Hart Project Gutenberg

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A question raised by Part 2 of this week's weekly newsletter...
by John Hagerson 03 Feb '05

03 Feb '05

Quoth the newsletter: >And yes I said yes today is the 83rd anniversary of the first >publication of Ulysses. I'm probably missing something. Was Foghorn Leghorn involved with the publication of Ulysses?

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Re: [gutvol-d] Question.
by Season BubbleGirl 01 Feb '05

01 Feb '05

Hi, I'm compiling a clean jokes book to be included in free book archives. I was just wondering if jokes are copyrighted. Not comedian-specific jokes - jokes such as, Why did the chicken cross the road? I found all jokes on different webpages. Because the ebook is free, aren't I doing the same as the webpages? Season BubbleGirl: Writer, poet, Pocket PC enthusiast bubblegirl(a)bubblegirl.net www.bubblegirl.net Did you know ROM of PC POWERPLAY moved? He's now an AUSSIE PLAYING UP at www.bubblegirl.net/playingup.php -----Original Message----- From: "Gutenberg9443(a)aol.com"<Gutenberg9443(a)aol.com> Sent: 02/01/2005 1:53:48 AM To: "gutvol-d(a)lists.pglaf.org"<gutvol-d(a)lists.pglaf.org> Subject: Re: [gutvol-d] date-sensitive info about ebook purchase In a message dated 1/30/2005 4:46:21 PM Mountain Standard Time, gbnewby(a)pglaf.org writes: Evidently, the mainstream publishers are not putting their mainstream works onto the Fictionwise site - maybe they're elsewhere. My strong suspicion is that many the works on the Fictionwise site are those that are owned by authors, not publishers. So, right now, this device doesn't replace bn.com or whatever for my reading of contemporary works. There is a lot of new stuff at FictionWise. It's in RB format and can be dumped straight into the ebook. Probably most of the stuff on the sites is older and the author has gotten copyright revision, but more and more publishers are getting the idea and putting new works up. For example, THE DA VINCI CODE went up on FictionWise about the same time it was released in hardback. Its success in eformat has certainly caught the eyes of other mainstream publishers. It's a good beginning, but it IS a beginning. Anne

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Re: [gutvol-d] date-sensitive info about ebook purchase
by Gutenberg9443＠aol.com 01 Feb '05

01 Feb '05

In a message dated 1/30/2005 4:46:21 PM Mountain Standard Time, gbnewby(a)pglaf.org writes: Evidently, the mainstream publishers are not putting their mainstream works onto the Fictionwise site - maybe they're elsewhere. My strong suspicion is that many the works on the Fictionwise site are those that are owned by authors, not publishers. So, right now, this device doesn't replace bn.com or whatever for my reading of contemporary works. There is a lot of new stuff at FictionWise. It's in RB format and can be dumped straight into the ebook. Probably most of the stuff on the sites is older and the author has gotten copyright revision, but more and more publishers are getting the idea and putting new works up. For example, THE DA VINCI CODE went up on FictionWise about the same time it was released in hardback. Its success in eformat has certainly caught the eyes of other mainstream publishers. It's a good beginning, but it IS a beginning. Anne

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Top 100 EBooks this week (and other stories)
by bill jenness 01 Feb '05

01 Feb '05

The picture of Dorian Gray (http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/174) is 47th and The picture of Dorian Gray (http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/4078) is 99th. I guess these are different editions but it seems a little odd nonetheless. The bibrec of the more recent edition lack two subject entries the earlier one lists. The other story I want to mention has to do with 2 books that I had cleared that I am not able to proceed with at this time. gbn0307140503: Unknown, The Reason Why--Natural History. bill jenness <cr502(a)freenet.carleton.ca>. 1860c. 7/24/2003. ok. and gbn0307140507: warren colburn, Arithmetic upon the inductive method of instruction.... bill jenness <cr502(a)freenet.carleton.ca>. 1856p1826c. 7/24/2003. ok. These books are no longer in my possesion and my scanner is toast, I am limping along with a p166 until I can afford to pickup some new equipment. I have "The Reason Why" partially scanned but that won't do anyone much good as the bulb got progressively more discolored as I went along. If there is someone in Ottawa (Canada) who could scan them in, I could probably get my hands back on them but they do not belong to me and I would need them returned.

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possible publicity?
by Aaron Cannon 31 Jan '05

31 Jan '05

I believe that Gutenberg received some sort of major press coverage in the U.K. today. I say this because we received over a hundred DVD requests, most from there. Does anyone have any further details on this? Thanks. Sincerely Aaron Cannon -- E-mail: cannona(a)fireantproductions.com Skype: cannona MSN Messenger: cannona(a)hotmail.com (Do not send E-mail to the hotmail address.)

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date-sensitive info about ebook purchase
by Gutenberg9443＠aol.com 30 Jan '05

30 Jan '05

Hi-- Just so you'll know--JAN 31 is THE LAST day that the eBookWise 1500 will be priced at $99. I don't know what it will go to after that, but the original price, when the device had a different name, was about $300. With the sincerest apologies to my Rocket, which has been close to my heart for the last five years, I now like the 1500 better. It's a very fine machine, and with the expenditure of another $60 for peripherals, which I got a couple of weeks ago but have not yet installed, it will hold over 300 books. It also allows editing in my normal handwriting, allowing me to insert extra blank pages to write on if necessary. We are still recovering from my husband's having fried his computer last Monday. This has involved the expenditure of about $600 (would have been a lot more if we hadn't found a complete desktop system for $299 with a one-year commitment to AOL, which is what we use anyway) and the moving of a total of about 40 gigabytes of programs and data, all of which I have been doing. I hope to be through sometime next week. But I'm not going to complain too much, because since my desktop expired last year I've been using my laptop as my main computer. Now I get to keep the brand new desktop and my laptop goes to my husband, who greatly prefers laptops. As I greatly prefer a desktop, we're both happy. I'll be glad to be able to get back to doing real work, though. Anyway, if you go February 1 to get an ebook reader and go into acute sticker shock, don't say I didn't warn you. If you don't want a ebook reader it doesn't matter anyway. My husband is one of those people who has given an ebook reader a real try-out and doesn't like it, so I know such people exist. Anne

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