You know, about 2 weeks ago, I tried to find out how to join your project and start entering a number of older books that I have in my possession. I tried finding instructions on how to do this on the web page, but found only muddy descriptions of how to go about it. There were no firm guidelines such as USE THIS FORMAT or HERE IS THE PROGRAM THAT WE TYPCIALLY USE. I tried to send scans to obtain copyright clearance only to have the message bounce. I tried resending them with the _at_ changed to @ and never got a reply from whomever was handling the clearances. So, since joining as a PROOFREADER was all that I could find info on, I joined this list. I submitted a couple of elementary questions such as what format to type these books into, etc. My message has NEVER appeared on this digest. All that HAS appeared is a bunch of people bickering and complaining about some arrogant twit. Can we all just GET OFF OF IT and do something constructive? How about someone clueing me in as to a very basic HOW do I reach this person who clears the books for copyright? And should the output of my text files be a TXT file? Or something else? (Then of course there are questions such as how you typically handle/format tables of contents and page breaks, how illustrations are typically treated, etc.) I know that one person is not THAT important, so I won't threaten to leave if I'm not answered, but you'd surely think that you all would welcome something else to do than to gripe about this Bowerbird person... As for me... I'm getting tired of waiting and being ignored.