On Mon, 25 Jan 2010, Bowerbird@aol.com wrote:
michael said:
there are some browsers on phone that are ugly. However, if you did your homework on them, even five years ago, you could get one that worked pretty much like whatever you had on your other devices.
i "did my homework". the so-called "web-browser" on these "smart" phones was a steaming pile of crap.
Sometimes they are, and I freely admit it. However, if you buy one like that AFTER doing homework, that's between you and your psyschiatrist. In addition, the last time I saw one of the "steamers," we just downloaded the browser we wanted. Yes, there are multiple browsers, even for cellphones. Don't forget I said don't get one without wifi.
moreover, the data plans offered were just _traps_ designed to snag you into a _staggering_ phone-bill.
The phone in question here has an unlimited data plan for some $35 a month, seems reasonable to me. Then again, I'm not sure that plan is still available, other than grandfathered in.
which is why nobody actually _used_ these "browsers", not for any kind of persistent day-to-day web usage...
Only the millions you left out of your research samples.
I did. And it was a common garden variety model, though admittedly expensive to buy new, so I got a used one, of course.
at a bargain price, i am sure, because the older owner realized the game that the phone-company was playing, and decided to opt out of the tar-baby.
Don't you ever listen??? I've said for ages, "Don't buy a cellphone without wifi!"
and you sidestepped the tar-pit by not using it as a phone, per se, so you weren't saddled with the monthly cost. smart. but definitely not typical.
Still, even as a phone, if you use wifi for data, no charges. Wake up!!!
I have yet to see such menus that didn't just point/click just like the others.
i'm not sure what you're saying here.
I guess you'll just have to do more research. It doesn't get much simpler than point and click, and I can't describe it better than you learning it with a real phone in front of you. Go play with em.
if you want to see some of the sites i was talking about, i can dig 'em up for you. i guarantee they look primitive. and they had no graphics at all. not the web we all know.
Sites? Were we talking about sites? I thot we were talking about phones!
Duh? Because Apple INSISTED you buy into THEIR network. . .!!!
um, that's because none of the other carriers would let steve put their phone on their networks, probably because they knew that -- with a real web-browser -- people would use a lot of bandwidth, and they weren't willing to provide it at the time, especially not at the flat rate that steve demanded. of course, in hindsight, they were stupid, because they could have buried at&t, but instead they let a 3rd-place contender remain alive.
An interesting POV. I'm not sure it's got any factual backing, but interesting. What about AT&T? Or are you counting them?
I certainly don't know ALL the functions of my phones, or of the iPhone. . .but as far as surfing the Internet and downloading/reading PG eBooks, it was all just fine, except that .zip worked best for downloading and space.
i'm perfectly willing to believe you're happy with your phone.
i'm perfectly willing to believe most iphone owners are happy with their phone too, and wouldn't trade it for any other phone.
Actually, all The Billionaire Boys Club are betting against you. As you may recall, I starting predicting years and years ago, when cellphones first reached 50% saturations levels, that the new wave of cellphones would be more wild new features. . . . Why? Because the new market is already prety well saturated! Remember "The Dot Com Bust". . .same tipping point, but now a little more experience.
i'm happy with my iphone, and wouldn't trade it for any other, but i didn't buy the 3gs when it came out last summer because i didn't want to re-up for another 2-year contract, because i was hoping that by this summer at&t would lose exclusivity, and i want to ditch them. and it looks like i'm gonna get that. i'm perfectly willing to stay off the bleeding edge if it cuts me.
So who else is going to be allowed to provide for iPhones???
except that a million people doesn't make a revolution today.
Didn't I use the plural?
but the 60-80 million iphone/ipodtouch owners certainly do, as do the 8.75 million people who bought an iphone last quarter.
Are iPhones up to 5% of cellphones yet? I think not [and vanished in a puff of greasy black smoke!] Actually, I would be surprised if even much over half that!
you can't ignore numbers like that. none of the big boys are pooh-poohing the iphone any more. they're playing catch-up.
It's cute. . .no one says not. It's just not even 5% of the market, maybe half that. . . . Seems to be following the Mac statistics. Now iPods, that a different thing. . .heaven knows why, since there are SO many MP3 players working so well.
Actually, Mr. Bird, if you go to Europe, you might be surprised at the phones they have, and the prices, and the price to operate.
i have a very good handle on what's happening around the world. and the iphone is neither "late", nor "technologically inferior"... (although the u.s.a. as a whole is dragging its feet quite badly.)
You just haven't see all the Euro-phones on the streets. . . .
-bowerbird