Brad Collins wrote:
Since the place of publication is important for determining copyright restrictions in some cases, I think it would be better to include a place of publication.
This has bothered me for some time. I've always wondered how to handle virtual organizations which don't really have a place of publication in the conventional sense like PG or the Apache Group.
I think the ISBD recommends using "s.l." where the place is unknown or indeterminate. (Initials for "sine loco". See http://www.ifla.org/VII/s13/pubs/isbd3.htm#18 section 4.1.15) However, this does not help the copyright question. MARC does provide the 506 field ("Restrictions on Access note") for copyright notices etc. Right now, I'm just putting "Freely available" in here (or the copyright statement for copyrighted works). But we could use a more detailed statement here. E.g. we should as a minimum say "Freely available in the USA. May be subject to copyright in other locations." We could also place the license url in this field (subfield u) rather than the 856. Regarding the series statement -- I'm not wedded to the use of 830 for "Project Gutenberg". It just seemed an appropriate way to include the PG number. One typical use of 830 in library catalogues is to be able to index works by series name. So this would allow (in this case) for a search on series name "Project Gutenberg" to list all the works in the collection. However, with currently almost 14,000 titles, maybe this isn't a worthwhile goal. "Project Gutenberg" should also be available as keywords in any library catalog search, if one needed to limit a search to just PG works. We could always expand the 500 General Note to include more detail about PG, including the item number. (500 can be whatever we want, and you can have as many 500 notes as you need.) Also, the item number is present in field 001 -- although that probably won't be visible to the general user of a library catalog, so including it in the 500 note is useful (and again makes the number usable in a keyword search). So if you want to reserve the 830 for particular series within PG (e.g. EET) then that's fine with me. Steve -- Stephen Thomas, Senior Systems Analyst, Adelaide University Library ADELAIDE UNIVERSITY SA 5005 AUSTRALIA Tel: +61 8 8303 5190 Fax: +61 8 8303 4369 Email: stephen.thomas@adelaide.edu.au URL: http://staff.library.adelaide.edu.au/~sthomas/