On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 12:31:59PM +0200, Marcello Perathoner wrote:
Jim Tinsley wrote:
I really do not mean to be disrepectful when I -- speaking for myself -- say that I'm not interested in spending my time making developers' jobs easier. That's not what I'm here for.
One one hand you wonder why we developers are not able to come up with a solution on the other hand you are not disposed to get one inch back on your developer-unfriendly position.
Your policy of not posting TEI files is at present the main roadblock.
It's like requesting the final release of the product before allowing a beta test.
I have been doing other (hopefully useful) work and have not looked at the TEI code for about a year now because I don't see a way to get it to work with this `moratorium' in place.
I don't understand this limitation, so will rephrase what we're waiting for. It was among the first messages in this thread. ** What we want is an automatic means of generating canonical ** documents from an XML master. The minimums are: XML --> HTML and XML --> text (yes, it's ok to go via HTML) Displaying XML directly in a browser is not a requirement, but is nice to have. There are a few subsidiary requirements, like incorporating the header materials in a sanely marked up way (trivial with teixlite.dtd, but not unambiguous). Both Marcello and Jeroen have demonstrated techniques for these, but neither is quite ready. We do have several XML documents online, we also have this list (also gutvol-p), and there are a couple of demonstration pages. Your claim that we need to start posting more stuff in XML in order to achieve the ** goal above does not make sense to me. I do not see the logic. I'm personally not strongly opposed to doing all sorts of experimentation, and do NOT feel the urge to get it right from the start. I also am certain that there is not going to be a one-size-fits-all technical solution for all of our content. I've asked both Marcello & Jeroen for updates & ideas in the past months. Maybe they did not get my messages. My belief is that there is a definite commitment at PG (including DP) in creating XML masters. I also believe that TEI-lite encoding will work well for the majority of our content.
From my point of view, I'd rather see the gutvol-d group of highly motivated & talented individuals focused on solving the remaining challenges for the solutions that Marcello and Jeroen have in place already. Arguing about whether we'll use XML is a waste of time: we will. The challenges before us are primarily technical, not policy. -- Greg
PS: No, I have not read every message in the threads over the past few days. If there's another solution somewhere, I hope someone can point it out to me.