On Mon, Feb 06, 2012 at 10:57:47AM +0100, Marcello Perathoner wrote:
On 02/06/2012 06:36 AM, Greg Newby wrote:
On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 08:27:30PM -0800, Jim Adcock wrote:
Greg>We've only been discussing this for a week or two. I encourage anyone wanting to do their own experiments to go ahead. Nothing that Marcello or anyone else did is deployed to www.gutenberg.org yet.
Sorry, I think some of us must be confused by Marcello deploying "his" version of the files at:
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/1661
for example, which is a privilege he has given himself that none of the rest have. What I think we had imaging was the Marcello was going to come up with was a way for *any* of us to post our examples say to the "More Files" category at that location, rather than Marcello giving himself "special privileges" to post his stuff directly into the main directory, while keeping the rest of us out.
I agree this seems like cheating.
Since when is being the first person to get his ass in gear cheating?
I'm ready to withdraw my comment, but cannot quite understand what you did. Can you explain? Earlier, you wrote:
The hg repository is live with 2 books.
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/1342
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/1661
For now, only the EPUB, Kindle and PDF versions were automatically generated from RST. Please download those versions to any real ereader devices and comment on the experience.
The repository containing the RST sources can be viewed (not edited) here:
My question is whether you are now generating some of the live contents at www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/1661 and 1342 from those bitbucket sources, or from the sources in www.gutenberg.org/files/1/6/6/1661/ and 1342 (i.e., "as usual"). I didn't see whether the log file is exposed at www.gutenberg.org, but they're accessible via rsync. Here is the full set of generated files, including the converter log: http://snowy.arsc.alaska.edu/mirrors/gutenberg/cache/generated/1661/
From the log, it is clear that several sources are from the files originally posted. So, is this just an improved converter?
Thanks for clarification, My view is that it would be cheating for you to bypass the original master files in favor of your own new masters, for the live site at www.gutenberg.org. Spinoffs and demos elsewhere would certainly not be cheating. And, updating the convertion at www.gutenberg.org to use the existing original master files is very much welcome. -- Greg
I always said I wanted to implement a master format. I never said I was going to implement vanity editions. In fact I don't believe PG has the resources to handle them.
If other people want to have vanity editions then *they* should come up with ways to implement them, eg.:
- devise a new filesystem layout that accomodates vanity editions, - talk the WWers into adopting it, - fix the WWers tools to work with it, - create a workforce to check and catalog all vanity submissions, - start posting books, - explain to me how the database should pick up those files / metadata.
I'm not wasting my time crying and complaining and trying to stop other people from moving.
In fact I've already implemented all database functions for the posting of vanity epubs since DP expressed the wish to do so. If they didn't start posting yet, its because they couldn't convince the WWers.
-- Marcello Perathoner webmaster@gutenberg.org