On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 07:10:07PM -0500, Bowerbird@aol.com wrote:
joey said:
Bird: You appear to ignoring the approximately 700 million devices which, since sometime in 2005, have been able to run the Opera Mini browser, which is a full-scale browser like Firefox, IE, Chrome, Safari, or its own big brother, Opera.
gawd, it's like talking to a wall.
I have personally been using Opera Mini on a myriad of devices for almost 4 years now
you and who else? oh yeah, those 700 million "devices".
but, for some strange unknown mysterious reasons, 99.9% of the people who check their weblogs find that opera (in all its forms) registers under 1% of their visits.
So, your evidence that "no one" was using Opera is that some handful of blogs which you've personally polled indicated that Opera was less than 0.01% of their traffic? Exactly which sites did you include in your survey? What was the standard deviation? Perhaps you mean that, in general, Opera is considered to only hold ~2% of the overall browser market? But that's a meaningless comparison in this context - the mobile browser market, even with your beloved iPhones out there in the wild for 2+ years, the best numbers I can find indicate that iPhone browsing is estimated a only 0.08 percent of all browsing activity worldwide. What a sea-change indeed! Or is it perhaps simply that YOUR social group (assuming anyone willing socializes with you) has finally joined the rest of the world and started using a computer more modern than your ancient Macintosh that you're using to build the vaporware ZML viewer/editor?
and that's my point, here, people, that's my whole point.
very few smart-phone users were using their smart-phones to visit the web. so even if it was "possible", in some sense of the word, no matter how sharply constrained, the fact is that very few people actually made use of that "possibility".
and the fact that a few of you can come here and say "i did" doesn't change the fact that very few people out there in the real world were using their smart-phones to access the web.
not until the iphone came along.
even now, years after apple _revolutionized_ the way that smart-phones accessed the web, the small percentage of people who own iphones access the web disproportionately, clocking in at about twice the usage, if i remember correctly.
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maybe next time you can actually hire a professional to come here and try to put stupid words in my mouth, because you clearly are incapable of performing the task.
No, indeed - you have repeatedly proven perfectly capable of doing that yourself - for example, by ignoring the fact that "[t]he Opera mobile browser has surpassed Apple's iPhone browser as the most popular mobile browser internationally". [1] I believe far less credit belongs to the iPhone than belongs to the overall Zeitgeist that has led to a generation of people more comfortable with living their lives online - which can probably be attributed ultimately to things like wars, disaster, and other horrifying realities people would rather ignore while they play "Tap Tap" on their iPhone or read about Michelle Obama's wardrobe on the NY Times. [1] http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/06/02/opera.beats.safari.mobile/