-----Original Message----- From: gutvol-d-bounces@lists.pglaf.org [mailto:gutvol-d-bounces@lists.pglaf.org] On Behalf Of Greg Newby Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 11:12 AM To: Project Gutenberg Volunteer Discussion Cc: pgww@lists.pglaf.org Subject: [gutvol-d] Re: posting size waiver.
On Mon, Sep 06, 2010 at 06:36:17PM -0400, Greg Weeks wrote:
I thought we had this settled, but apparently not. I have two projects over at pgdp where the PPer has given up on posting them because the WWer refuses to take them because they are 1 page
out of Weird Tales.
Greg W., others:
Thanks for your input on this. It's fine for short items from magazines to be posted as stand-alone eBooks in the Gutenberg collection. If anything is held up in the process, drop me a note and I'll see what's going on.
The current uncertainty was produced, at least partially, because I had volunteered to see whether some sort of combination is deemed reasonable or desirable by the submitter. If it's not (and your message is that it is not), then of course we'll post the poems or other short items separately.
I do still think it's useful and appropriate to combine items themactically, when it is practical. "Poetry Selections from Galaxy 1955-1956" seems perfectly acceptable to me, and would have the benefit of putting something that is more book- or magazine-length in a reader's hands, rather than just a single short poem. But this is guidance, not dictate.
I'm not sure which items might be held, or by whom. But the WWers involved perhaps do. I hope we can get any pending items moving immediately. Sorry for the delay with these.
-- Greg
The whole workflow at DP does NOT let you combine things when they need separate clearances.
The items are: Lycanthropus by Bolen, C. Edgar 20100108175432bolen The Lost Temples of Xantoos by Calhoun, Howell 20100110102049calhoun
They come out of different issues of Weird Tales. I know not who
I have both of the items in question: "Lost Temples of Xantoos" (900 chars) and "Lycanthropus" (800 chars). (I'm not aware of any other unposted tiny SciFi submissions.) I want to emphasize that I did not "refuse to take them". My position at the time was that because they were far below PG's stated preference that submissions should be 25K or greater, unless they were sufficiently unique as to merit being posted on their own, they could/should be combined into a single text, and I wanted guidance from Greg as to whether tiny submissions such as these were acceptable. (I believe Ritu also contacted Greg, but I don't know what transpired with that.) Since it's now been deemed that they're acceptable, I'll post them. Al poems the
WWer is as I'm not actually involved in the posting step at all.
Greg Weeks
On Mon, 18 Jun 2007, Greg Newby wrote:
I definitely agree with the basic idea, although I would
On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 05:06:59PM -0400, Robert Cicconetti wrote: like to suggest
that the rule be rewritten altogether to allow shorter works, "complete as published", as well. Pamphlets, for example, were very important in shaping public opinion during the American Revolution.
Not all were collected later, or if they were, some are under a compilation copyright.
R C
The 25K is a guideline, not a fixed lower limit. I agree with posting smaller items when they are indeed their own "items."
For short stories from magazines, it would be preferable to have the whole issue, but as Greg mentions not practical when only some of the stories are clearable.
I'll remind the WW team that shorter items are fine, when these practical issues make a shorter piece difficult.
BTW, one of my first PG "titles" was O Henry's "Gift of the Magi." That was too short for a full eBook (only a few pages), so Michael elected at the time to not assign an eBook number, but to add it to the collection. That's not how we'd do things today (we rely on eBook #s as a main identifier), but shows that flexibility is nice! -- Greg
On 6/18/07, Juliet Sutherland <vze3rknp@verizon.net> wrote:
Sounds like a great idea to me.
JulietS
Greg Weeks wrote:
Can we get a waiver for the 25K minimum size limit for
rule 6 SF pieces? They have to be cleared separately, so it's very difficult to aggregate them. In the case of the ASF stuff from 1959-1963 we would run afoul of the collection copyright if we
postings for the tried to aggregate
by
issue anyway.
-- Greg Weeks http://durendal.org:8080/greg/
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