Yep, that makes perfect sense. Thanks, Andrew. I'll see about getting the audio files posted under their own number. Josh
----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Sly" <sly@victoria.tc.ca> To: "Project Gutenberg Volunteer Discussion" <gutvol-d@pglaf.org> Subject: Re: [gutvol-d] Librivox audio files Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 09:23:32 -0700 (PDT)
It can create problems from the cataloging point of view.
You could have a situation where an ebook is updated, and the audio book cannot easily be, so the two are not "in-sync".
The process of creating an audio book from a PG text is not merely one of reformatting, or adding markup. There is substantial creative effort involved. (to the point where the result will be markedly different, if done by different individuals.)
To use copyright lingo, this is clearly a "derivative work." It is derived from the original text, but is also a new item of its own.
For popular titles it could easily be possible to eventually end up with multiple readings of them. Trying to keep these distinct for a user if they are all on the same bibliographic record page would be no fun at all.
And forgive me for stating a truism here. Unlike text files, each recorded instance of spoken word or music is unique. You can't run a diff over two individually produced versions and create one improved version from the results. :)
Does that seem reasonable? (and hopefully understandable)
Andrew On Thu, 17 Aug 2006, Joshua Hutchinson wrote:
Really? In my experience, the only thing we've learned from audio files is that the fastest way to start a flame war on gutvol-d is to post a whole bunch of audio files of PG texts in new numbers! :)
Seriously, since these texts are specifically read from PG texts, posting them in a new number seems a waste to me, but I'm willing to listen to arguments for why that should be.
JHutch
----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Sly" <sly@victoria.tc.ca> To: "Project Gutenberg Volunteer Discussion" <gutvol-d@pglaf.org> Subject: Re: [gutvol-d] Librivox audio files Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 14:18:04 -0700 (PDT)
I believe that experience has shown that, in a case such as you mention below, it would work better to have an audio book posted under a new number.
Andrew
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006, Joshua Hutchinson wrote:
I remember discussing this before, but I can't remember what the final word on it was.
Librivox (www.librivox.org) has quite a few audio readings taken from our texts. They are released to the public domain (no copyright on them at all).
http://librivox.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=881&sid=b24c8b14c49472aab8f7f410aa0bf3da
The individual audio book pages on www.archive.org links to this CC
Public
Domain notice: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/publicdomain/
My question is this:
Do we need to run a separete clearance request before posting audio files under the PG text number they came from?
For example, if I grabbed Dorothy and the Wizard in Oz (http://librivox.org/dorothy-and-the-wizard-in-oz-by-l-frank-baum/) and with David reposted it under our etext #420 (http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/420), do I need to first get a new clearance? (I'm planing on redoing the text as a TEI master at the same time, so we'll get TEI and PDF along with the existing file formats).
Thanks, Josh
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