On Thu, 16 Dec 2004, Jon Gorman wrote:
Joshu Hutchinson and Jon Noring's suggestions. The folio is confusing when it is the first return result, and people do have a tendency to hit the first result.
No one is suggesting it should be the first result.
I believe Greenstone (the new software behind the scenes at gutenberg.org) allows pretty precise sorting of returns on various conditions. Would it be possible to always return the text format as the first return? This would help highlight the importance of the text format without having to decide when a format is outdated or unsupported, needs to be moved to the suggested "old" directory, or a "stupid, stupid formats" page.
However, this sort of sweeping out of sight is not acceptable.
Michael, I think people are trying to understand what you mean by hiding or sweeping away.
Putting something where it is not likely be be seen is sweeping under the carpet. . .period.
The mere fact the folio appears first is an unintentional accident of sorting.
Then change the sorting technique so it is last. . . .
You yourself says that no one is arguing it should be first.
I haven't seen anyone say it should be first, no one at all.
Yet, down here you say changing the order is not acceptable.
No, I don't. . .just moving it to another directory is.
Should we be moving all the obsolete formats to the front,
What kind of question is that?
essentially doing the opposite? What service does that provide? Indeed by having the text format be first and foremost, it should send a clear signal of the preferred format, and can be linked to another page explaining why.
As above, I am not saying it should come up as first, as default, etc.
Try again when those of us who spent all the effort on this Folio project are dead, eh?
Michael, no one is trying to disparage your efforts. Indeed, I have some questions. Do we have it in writing there would always be a free reader? I've seen some algorithms and code that decodes the folio format. Would the lack a free reader for the folio allow these to be legally available for a person to develop a reader/converter program for it?
Personally, I wouldn't go through the effort, even if Folio has folded and we can get the rights. It's JUST and example. . .leave it be, put in a comment describing this better than the one that is in there now.