And, for the blind/visually impaired, there's nothing available to read mobipocket books on the mac. There is no osx version of the mobi pocket reader, and most of the providers who have put out programs that work on osx did not follow the apple accessibility guidelines when designing their apps, thus the applications that do exist do not work with voiceover, leaving all voiceover users out of the loop when it comes to reading these proprietary formats on their computers. This is why I will use project gutenberg texts first, pdf files second, and epub formats if I must (since those are just simple html files I can load into safari after I've uncompressed them, and ripped out all the junk that makes them epub formatted). Amazon did nothing to make their reader accessible, even after a suit from the national federation for the blind, (wwhich both surprised me that nfb would do such a thing considering how many other readers are out there they never even batted an eyelash at, and the fact that amazon did nothing to assist). But, since there are no stand-alone readers that work for the blind or visually impaired users who can't read print because they can't see well enough to do so, and the fact that almost every discussion with publishers about making things accessible generally degenerate into piracy issues instead, I don't see this state of affairs changing anytime soon. Case in point. When the palm reader came out for the pc, version 1.0 worked perfectly with windows screen readers. I purchased a couple hundred pdb books from peanut press who became palmdigitalmedia who became (eventually) fictionwise bought by barns and nobel, and from fictionwise (who at the time was a separate entity). Someone managed to crack the encryption they were using for their books, so they came out with version 1.01 which changed the encryption, and also made some gui updates. In so doing so, most of the key combinations which made the 1.0 version perfectly usable by screen readers were removed, thus rendering the 1.01 version (for all practical purposes) useless. I was out several hundred bucks since I could no longer read these books. Lucky for me, I read a lot, and quickly, so had finished most of my material before this change happened, and found replacements in other formats for the rest. Also, mobipocket has gone through several revisions, an early version allowed screen readers to work just fine with the app, but later versions which incorporated antitheft technology and forced screen images instead of text, rendered the application completely unusable via screen readers as well. so all the books I had checked from the fictionwise library went back unread, because the program no longer worked. These are considerations that do not get made when companies develop their stand-alone readers (or other devices for that matter) There's many many cases where a company has produced a product that talks, but is completely useless to the blind/visually impaired user, because only the end result talks, not the steps getting to that point. Putting braille on mac machines is nice, but not if there's no way to see what's on the screen. Too often, these things are what make an excellent product useless for those of us who can't see it. Often times, a few more minutes of thinking at the outset would solve most of these problems, especially for products that already talk, since adding a few more pieces of voice would make it complete usable. Ebooks are no different. The fact that pg offers things in plain text is great, I can grab a book, put it in any format I like (or none at all for that matter) and know it will work with my system. When a reader comes out that allows me to read ebooks w/o sighted assistance, I'll be one of the first in line to purchase one, because reading is something I do a lot of, and I'd love a way to take books with me without having to convert to audio first, or run through some indexing program first before loading on a dvecie specifically developed with the blind user in mind (book corrier and book port are two examples) Anyway, I've gotten way off topic here, but my primary intent here was just to point out that although reading devices are great, they don't work for everyone, no matter what some folks might think.