At 01:51 PM 11/10/2004, you wrote:
Alev Akman writes:
How can this be mandatory? We've got a few composite books, that don't have a single print analogue, and many books where it would be hard or arbitrary to find an edition to get this information from.
I was speaking for our future records. I am aware that some of our files are even compilations of various additions. Hopefully we are getting away from works obtained that way, maybe even redoing them. If we want dependable works, we should be able to prove our source. No more chickening out for copyright reasons.
It still can't be mandatory until we're willing to seek out editions for every single book we've done, either the exact same edition or be willing to update the text to an edition we can find.
More towards what I was thinking, there are books that are compilations of several printed books. PG recently posted The Fifteen Comforts of Matrimony: Responses from Men and The Fifteen Comforts of Matrimony: Responses from Women. We could break those down into the individual 8 page pamphlets, but PG has generally discouraged that. Likewise, if I can ever find the papers, a book of short stories by Edna St. V. Millay will go to DP, consistenting of several stories written for magazines but never collected as a book. There's no reason for us to break that up, either.
Here's the tabbed text format of the title you mentioned: The Fifteen comforts of matrimony. La Sale, Antoine de 1795 [by Isaiah Thomas] and sold at the Worcester bookstore. Translation of: Les quinze joyes de mariage, sometimes attributed to Antoine de La Sale.; Printer's name supplied by Evans.; Evans; Microform version available in the Readex Early American Imprints series.; Electronic text and image data.; EvansDigital. (none) 144 p. ill. 16 cm. (12mo) (none) 16 cm. (12mo) (none) (none) (none) (none) (none) (none) eng (none) (none) 144 p. Printed at Worcester, Massachusetts Marriage.; Women; Women in literature. With an addition of three comforts more. : Wherein the various miscarriages of the wedded state, and the miserable consequences of rash and inconsiderate marriages are laid open and detected. (none) (none) (none) Obviously, fields shown as (none) would be shown as blank in the database. If necessary, we can have a catalog entry for the combined works but give the information for the individual works within the Notes field, indicating the titles, dates, whatever. And, here's the MARC version: 041 1 $a eng$h fre 245 04$a The Fifteen comforts of matrimony.$h [electronic resource] :$b With an addition of three comforts more. : Wherein the various miscarriages of the wedded state, and the miserable consequences of rash and inconsiderate marriages are laid open and detected. 260 $a Printed at Worcester, Massachusetts, :$b [by Isaiah Thomas] and sold at the Worcester bookstore.,$c 1795. 300 $a 144 p. :$b ill. ;$c 16 cm. (12mo) 500 $a Translation of: Les quinze joyes de mariage, sometimes attributed to Antoine de La Sale. 500 $a Printer's name supplied by Evans. 510 4 $a Evans$c 28948. 530 $a Microform version available in the Readex Early American Imprints series. 533 $a Electronic text and image data.$b [Chester, Vt. :$c Readex, a division of Newsbank, Inc.,$d 2002-2004.$e Includes files in TIFF, GIF and PDF formats with inclusion of keyword searchable text.$f (Early American imprints. First series ; no. 28948) 590 $a EvansDigital. 650 0$a Marriage. 650 0$a Women $v Anecdotes. 650 0$a Women in literature. 655 7$a ebooks$2 local. 655 7$a eresource$2 local. 655 7$a Facetiae.$2 rbgenr. 690 $a Evans Digital Edition. 690 $a Early American Imprints. 700 1 $a La Sale, Antoine de ,$d b. 1388? 752 $a United States$b Massachusetts$d Worcester. 830 0$a Early American imprints.$n First series ;$v no. 28948. 856 41$u http://libproxy.unm.edu/login?url=http://opac.newsbank.com/select/evans/2894... $y Click here $z to access Evans Digital Edition You see also where we would attach our files? On field 856? Yup, it is doable. You think a record like that where we can harvest what we need is useful? Alev.
If you enter "Het Esperanto" into the LoC catalog, you get "[Language, languages, and writing pamphlets]./1819-1947/51 items". So this is a practice that LoC engages in, in its own way.
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