keith said:
>   Sorry, BB I think You did not due Walter and Andrew justice.
>   They did not attack anyone and just stated their views.
>   You could have just have just mention the advantages of
>   eucalyptus. But, why be so sarcastic here. 

hey, back off, keith, now.

i didn't "attack" anyone, not by any stretch of the imagination.

i just disagreed with something walter said.  or, more specifically,
i asked for clarification, and registered a few counter-thoughts...

and i don't appreciate it when people mistake my motives and
then mischaracterize them as if they had some handle on them.

you've made a mistake here, keith, a bad mistake, and if i were
the whining kind, i'd probably demand some kind of apology,
but as it is, i'm just warning you to stop making that mistake...


>   You could have just have just mention the advantages of
>   eucalyptus. But, why be so sarcastic here. 

i _did_ mention the "advantage" of eucalyptus, nice formatting.

but that just introduces the same question i asked about stanza,
namely, "what is it that _constitutes_ nice and proper formatting?"

this is a good question, one that really _needs_ to be asked, so
that we can then go on and ask more sophisticated questions,
such as "how do we apply that formatting?", and "what kind of
rule-set is eucalyptus following in order to apply its formatting?",
and so on.  as it is, though, as evidenced by the mess of formats
coming out of d.p., there is a wide range of "formatting" that
_could_ be considered "proper", so it's rather meaningless when
someone refers to "proper formatting", and it's good to know that.
it doesn't mean they are "wrong", but it _does_ mean that we are
justified in asking them precisely what _they_ mean by the term...

and further, there is no "sarcasm" here.  i'm plenty capable of being
sarcastic it, it's something i do often, and fairly well, although there
probably isn't much "honor" in that performance in most eyes, but
there's no reason to think that everything that i do is "sarcastic"...
if you pay any attention at all, it should be quite easy to see when
i am being sarcastic and when i'm not.  so keith, _pay_attention_,
at least if you're going to make commentary.

also, i'm not sure if eucalyptus uses the utf8 version of files or not.
plain-text doesn't rule out an encoding -- or even utf8 -- you know.

-bowerbird