Hi Greg and Don, I will allow myself to step in here. One of the missing components in these discussions is what is called a specification. Greg you say this is what I want to do and want a tools that exists for it. We already have this. How do we make it better with other tools or changing things. But, from the perspective of a professional programmer al this is far to vague to do the proper analyses needed. Don you want the correct professional specification so that you can properly modify or design the system Greg wants. I know Don you go for the tools and technologies at a later point. Well you are going to have to meet in the middle. 1) Greg most likely will not be able to supply the Models. But, he can and has in a earlier post stated what he is think of. 2) Don you are going have to take what Greg gives you and develop the Models from there. 3) Don has already i identified that what Greg wants can not be done with a single tool or technology. Yet, it requires a collaboration thereof. 4) Greg is worried about access to the system and that not all understand the tools and that a user can mess things up. 5) don knows how to bring things together So what is need to connect the dots. As a brainstorming idea something as a man in the middle: 1) a user authencates with the tool 2) the use accesses the data via this tool The advantage: 1) is that a user does not need know how a VCS works or which we are using. 2) the you server does not have direct access to the servers(can not mess things up) 3) we can use use any tools needed to kept things working smoothly 4) we can guarantee the the data is consitent 5) we do not need to reinvent the wheel, we just need to build a chasis regards Keith. Am 06.02.2012 um 03:04 schrieb Greg Newby:
Summarizing what I think you wrote: - I didn't answer your question correctly - You don't have any useful examples of good answers for similar questions - I cannot answer it alone, I need a whiteboard and some other people - I need to write all about how Project Gutenberg operates now, but without mentioning technologies or computing - In order to foster organizational change through improved technologies, I first need to effect that change for myself and other folks who are using non-improved technologies
Somehow, I think I'd rather keep emphasizing trying to build improved tools to support stated needs, than try to engage in the process you've tried to lay out. But I'm ready to keep trying to address what you're asking, if you can be more specific about what you are looking for.