Let me assure you. NONE of us (not even bowerbird) is expecting Joe Sixpack to have the conversion tools loaded on his computer. Whether the eventual process will have the whitewashers creating the TXT and HTML files from XML or the server building them on the fly, no one wants that burden to fall on the reader. There will always be plain text files available. Even the most hardened XML-phile among us isn't going to take that away. (Even if they refuse to ever actually read a text in plain-ascii format! ;) ) Josh ----- Original Message ----- From: Gutenberg9443@aol.com Please. I am not trying to start a flame war. I detest flame wars. I am simply returning, again and again, to Michael Hart's original vision. No matter what ELSE we do to the texts, we are betraying what makes PG special if we require everybody to have this program or that program which probably won't run on most obsolete or obsolescent computers.