Some of these questions may overlap a bit--bear with me... Who's going to monitor this pre-prelease page for when projects on it are posted? The WWers? DP? Greg? Will it contain only pre-release text files, or all working files associated with a given project (page scans, illustrations, text, HTML, etc, etc)? If the latter, what's to stop someone from taking those files, getting their own clearance, and submitting them to PG as their own work? Or is DP going to consider that they're, in effect, abandoned projects, and up for grabs? (I can only imagine the reaction that would cause.) Related to a couple of the above questions, would the WWers be expected to check to see if a given submission is one that's also in progress at DP, or would it be a case of first-come, first-posted, and let DP take its lumps? Rather than dumping who knows how many pre-releases into Preprints, I'd suggest a separate Prerelease page. (Speaking personally, I regularly check Preprints for interesting/doable projects, and have drawn a number of projects from it. I doubt I'd be interested in looking through a raft of ex-DP items, searching for non-DP Preprint items.) Al ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael S. Hart" <hart@pglaf.org> To: "Project Gutenberg Volunteer Discussion" <gutvol-d@lists.pglaf.org> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 8:10 PM Subject: [gutvol-d] Re: the d.p. opinion on "prerelease" of e-texts
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010, Al Haines (shaw) wrote:
Hmm... I figured Greg was busy enough! <g>
I talked to Greg about it, he's fine with it. Might be best to let him do it once a week or something, tho.
As for the "major technical challenge" suggested elsewhere in this topic, why can't DP put up a wiki page for pre-releases, similar to its Harvesting wiki page? Project Managers (or whoever) could put links on the page to their pre-release candidates, and when a pre-release was ready for submission to PG, or had been posted, the PM could remove the link.
I'm up for any way we can get more eBooks to more people, sooner, than later.
I'm willing to try them both, see how our readers respond.
After all, it's not trivial to find the PrePrints page, though Google does seem to find it ok, which should be ok for most of our readers.
Let's try. . . .
Michael
Al
----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael S. Hart" <hart@pglaf.org> To: "Project Gutenberg Volunteer Discussion" <gutvol-d@lists.pglaf.org> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 5:50 PM Subject: [gutvol-d] Re: the d.p. opinion on "prerelease" of e-texts
Greg Newby takes care of deleting from PrePrints, should be easy enough just to send him notes of what has been completed.
mh
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010, Al Haines (shaw) wrote:
Would it not be simpler for DP itself to have a Pre-releases page, similar to its Smooth-Read page?
I would think that if pre-releases are copied from DP into some PG environment, similar to Preprints, there would need to be some coordination to remove them from that environment when they're posted into PG as finished products.
Al
----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael S. Hart" <hart@pglaf.org> To: "Project Gutenberg Volunteer Discussion" <gutvol-d@lists.pglaf.org> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 1:21 PM Subject: [gutvol-d] Re: the d.p. opinion on "prerelease" of e-texts
I can tell you that both Greg Newby, our CEO, and myself, are most definitely FOR doing such prereleases!!!
We are prepared to start making directories for them and getting them loaded in as soon as we have permission.
We would put up a number of disclaimers abou them to put a protective system up for DP and various volunteers.
We would appreciate any opportuty to do this with any of the three sections of books mentioned earlier.
Many thanks!!!
Michael
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010, Lee Passey wrote:
On 2/24/2010 12:37 PM, cmiske@ashzfall.com wrote:
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> The more I think about it, the more I feel that it would > actually > be > rather nice to see something along the lines of the 'roundless > experiment' produce decent quality 'first release' books and > then > have > people nitpick them to 'perfection' later. The point would be > the > format > of storage so that the rough version could be compared to the > > > >
original
> scans and corrections/updates be done with ease. Also, if a > book is > backlogged at DP, it would make sense to have a method for > someone > outside of DP to adopt the book and finish it.
I agree with you completely, and what you have described is what > > bowerbird has been agitating for for many years now. A book would go into 'first release' when the number of changes in the roundless system dropped below a > > certain rate. It would then go into general distribution in a system that > > allowed "continuous proofreading" in a wiki-like system
Good luck in convincing either DP or PG to adopt these kind of > > reforms. _______________________________________________ gutvol-d mailing list gutvol-d@lists.pglaf.org http://lists.pglaf.org/mailman/listinfo/gutvol-d
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