Bowerbird wrote:
i do need to say that i'm very sorry that none of your friends here told you that your "zero markup" is one and the same with my "zen markup"... indeed, for the first years, i even called it "zero markup".
Technology that a developer won't release might as well not exist. If I had access to your code and could use it to generate some texts, then I wouldn't have to go off and figure it out myself. Don't feel sorry for me. If you have this technology and won't release it, then feel sorry for countless people who might have benefited from it.
so when i read your initial post on this, i wondered if you were just punking me.
I don't do that. You know that. Life is too short for games.
for years, you have dumped on me, roger. not constantly, or extreme, but you _did_.
Really? I actually value your technical posts. They come with a price, but you aren't in my kill file because you often come up with useful information. I don't think I've said anything negative about you in years, and that was back when I felt it was important to defend myself. Now, not so much. It's all part of being on this list. I get that.
as for your success, or lack of it, i'm uncertain. perhaps you haven't worked on it long enough? because i'm getting my z.m.l. to work just fine.
Again, it's not interesting and even less important if you get your z.m.l. working if you won't share it. You say I haven't worked on it long enough? Are you the same person who said I shouldn't work on it at all because you already have it done? But wait, you won't share it, so yes if I want to advance the art, I'll have to do it myself. Turns out, I think there are some serious stumbling blocks. For example, I have yet to work out an algorithm that reliably detects long lines of centered poetry versus a block quote (or nested block quote). To wrap or not depends on deciding if the inner block really is poetry, and that takes looking beyond structure. Even checking the end of lines for words that rhyme isn't bulletproof. Another one I don't have an answer to is when a few lines of poetry are inside a paragraph. There is no reliable way I've found to tell if the continuation line after the embedded poetry is a new paragraph or not. Not without looking at parts of speech. Initial letter capitalization of course isn't enough. You may have figured these out, which might be valuable if you shared z.m.l. It's your call to withhold z.m.l. and I seem to remember the reasons stated were personal more than technical. I'm guessing it's both, but reasons really aren't important. I don't think your or my z.m.l. implementation can do all that I want it to. My code is freely available and if someone does want to advance this "zero markup" technology they can download my Python source code and run with it. --Roger