Hear! Hear!

I say again, hear! Hear!

I applaud the sentiments expressed by Mr Keith J. Schultz.

I wish people would resist the personal attack language against others, whatever the provocation. It is more demeaning and degrading to the attacker than the victim, but is extremely ugly to witness as a bystander. Rather in the way I would avoid a public place where offensive language or bullying is commonplace, so I would tend to avoid a newsgroup/mailing list.

Surely, the right to free speech does not include the right to use bullying and offensive language nor to incite others to use such language.

This list CAN be a very valuable and technical forum giving many insights into the challenges of DP and PG work; please let's get back to what matters: constructive discussion on subject, with patience for those less experienced and a willingness to agree to disagree where appropriate.

Roger

On 7 February 2012 09:11, Keith J. Schultz <schultzk@uni-trier.de> wrote:
Hi Karen,

I will admit that BBs language is to say sometimes overly flowery.

Yet, he has in the last year given very good contributions to the list.
He was even for a time practiculy the only one keeping this list going.
Furthermore, he has collaborated with others. As a matter help them more than
I have seen anyone else here on the list.

You can not know this, because you have him filtered out.

If one takes the time to filter out the language, one can find a wealth of knowledge.

Some time back I was think of doing other to a DP list, but I was so personally insulted
that I refrained. I, also got the feeling that I would actually be banned there, too.

Just recently, someone else here even implied I views or suggestion were Nazi-like.
let go ban him.

There is a saying: "if you can not stand the heat, do not become a cook" (unknown chef cook).

I see no difference between BB and those that use a refined language to be "mean". Those using
a refined language are even worst! The hide! bb is out front.

A simply analyze will show that BB post have not been that abundant lately.

I could give you at least two name of others that are getting on my nerves, that make the
recent discussions more than tedious.

If those from DP take other this list and start imposing censorship then this list is lost as well
as PG.

It is sad to see that people do not pay intension to international news, otherwise one can see
what happens when the rights of free speech is ignored.

regards
       Keith.

Am 07.02.2012 um 07:21 schrieb Karen Lofstrom:

> On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Marc D'Hooghe <marcdh@freeliterature.org> wrote:
>
>> That level has been reached again for some days (BB) - I'm aware (for
>> sometime already) that a number of people with valuable opinions) don't take
>> the trouble anymore to view this mailing list - can't blame them...
>
> I have him filtered out, but I still get the backwash in the form of
> other people quoting him.
>
> He was banned from DP (the only person ever banned!) I wish someone
> would have the courage to remove him here.
>
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