ok, i see that lee too is replying to threads i initiated... i don't know if he's responding to me, or to others who have posted in those threads, because -- as i've said -- i have reinstated my policy not to read lee's messages... i have also found that -- unlike keith, who i believe is often "genuinely" confused about the topic at hand -- lee is prone to intentional attempts to confuse things. (amusingly, jim falls into _both_ groups.) so it might not be apparent if lee is responding to _me_ or to _someone_else_. but whatever the case might be, the situation stands. if you would like to see me respond to anything that lee has stated, or questions he's asked -- whether to me personally or to anyone else as well -- or if you think i will be _stumped_ by what lee said and you wanna see me stumped, rephrase in your own words. i will respond, carefully and thoroughly, just like always... otherwise, i'll assume that y'all wish to see these issues die a graceful death, if that is indeed still a possibility... thank you for your time and attention. :+) -bowerbird p.s. some of you might wonder why my antagonists even put out their stuff, since i immediately refute it. the reason is pretty simple... they know that _many_ of the people in their clan have me kill-filtered, thus their target-audience never hears my refutation, and thus believes whatever falsehoods they have planted. but of course the misimpressions inside those heads will die when their bodies die, whereas the _archives_ of this list will persist for a _long_ time in cyberspace, a permanent record of all the recurring dishonesties...