On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 01:39:29PM -0700, Lee Passey wrote:
On 11/24/2012 11:12 PM, James Adcock wrote:
IMHO the best solution to keep customers from downloading crap versions is not to offer them -- or to fix them.
Ahh, but that kind of begs the question doesn't it? We don't want to keep people from downloading crap versions, we just want to be sure they /know/ they're getting crap versions. And how are we going to know that any particular version /is/ a crap version?
What we do know, is that we can't trust the opinion of Marcello Perathoner, James Adcock, David Widger, Bruce Morasch, Greg Newby or even Lee Passey. We /can/ probably trust the quality of HTML books produced of late by Distributed Proofreaders, but it would appear that no one is interested in downloading the recent work product of DP.
:)
So, you have failed to address Mr. Newby's core question, which is "how do we determine the quality of any arbitrary PG edition?" I'm sure that any concrete proposal you would care to make would be genuinely appreciated.
Karen's suggestion isn't that far from what we can do now, and actually have done in practice: a note in the bibrec. The bibrec for #11 says to also look at #928. These are added by hand... any of the team at gutcat@lists.pglaf.org can add them (usually Andrew Sly does these, but Marcello and I also tweak the records). Currently, the bibrec is not the main "tab" (see www.gutenberg.org/etext/11 if you're not sure what I'm talking about). But I'm sure the Note could appear on the Download tab instead. A simple technique to raise awareness of alternate versions would be to add them to the bibrec as a Note. There might be some situations when there is ambiguity in whether a note really refers to an alternate edition of the same book. This applies with Alice, for example: 11, 114, 928, 19033, 19573, 23716, 28885. And, The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, by Mark Twain 32325 Audio: Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, by Mark Twain 19640 Audio: Huckleberry Finn, by Mark Twain 9007C Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, Part 8, by Mark Twain (Samuel Clemens) 7107 Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, Part 7, by Mark Twain (Samuel Clemens) 7106 Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, Part 6, by Mark Twain (Samuel Clemens) 7105 Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, Part 5, by Mark Twain (Samuel Clemens) 7104 Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, Part 4, by Mark Twain (Samuel Clemens) 7103 Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, Part 3, by Mark Twain (Samuel Clemens) 7102 Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, Part 2, by Mark Twain (Samuel Clemens) 7101 Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, Part 1, by Mark Twain (Samuel Clemens) 7100 Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, by Mark Twain 76 So, as usual, things are not completely simple. Editing the bibrec is easy enough to do. I encourage people with an interest to simply email "like" records, and we can edit them in. The Note field is flexible, and can be duplicated within a bibrec. -- Greg