
On Sat, 17 Apr 2010, Jim Adcock wrote:
Sorry, but are you saying that you are actually currently running Stanza on an iPad, that you have tested this, and that it works? From what I can see they only have an iPod version, which yes will run on iPad -- and create a blurry simulation of an iPod on your iPad.
iPads have their own iBooks App and if you search for "Project Gutenberg" and various titles what you get seems very much not to be what you call a "blurry simulation of an iPod on your iPad."
I suggest that instead of taking Artistotle's thought processing to try a way of figuring out what an iPad looks like without looking at a real one of these gizmos that instead you just find one and actually look at it or the next best thing, look at the online demonstrations or ask someone who is trying one out to do some experimentation for you.
I have done all these things. I went to an apple store and played with an iPad as soon as they came out and was underwhelmed. I compared it to an iPod and decided that if I was going to consider either one probably the iPod made more sense to me. A friend has bought an iPod and we spent an evening playing with it trying to get PG books directly to it without passing through the Steve Jobs filter. For example in the web browser we tried downloading an ePub format book from PG and Apple blocks this whereas in comparison Kindle supports it -- as do PC browsers. We downloaded and installed Stanza and it showed up as a blurry simulation of an iPod within the iPad.
Somewhere in the previous paragraph you seem to have switched from talking "A friend has bought an iPod and we spent and evening playing with it...", to "it showed up as a blurry simulation of an iPod within the iPad", with, it would appear, no switch of topic from iPod to iPad. Was there are typo in "friend has bought an iPod" where you meant "iPad"?, or did I miss something else that indicated changes from iPod to iPad?
Again, I am asking a serious question: Are you saying that you are actually currently running Stanza on an iPad, that you have tested this, and that it works? Because I have tested it and for me it didn't work, but rather showed up as a blurry simulation of an iPod on the iPad. There are also discussions on the web about how Steve Jobs required Stanza to take out features that allowed Stanza users to share non-DRM books with friends.
I didn't mention Stanza at all, so how can you be asking me "a serious question: Are you saying you are actually running Stanza on an iPad?" Perhaps you can restate this and also enlighten us on the feature that is missing, where it and how to use it on the other Stanza version[s].
If you have found "good" ways to get PG directly to iPad how about discussing them in detail, what you did to have success,
I told you. . .I used the iBooks App that popped up at first turn on, and I also used the Wattpad App. If you don't like those, you might try Goodreader Lite, before trying though I am not sure of the details, haven't tried it yet.
rather than flaming me --
Flaming you? After all the previous harshness, you accuse ME of flaming you? Is that because I asked if you didn't try iBooks and Wattpad? Neither of which product mentions did you reply to, nor even "Thanks, but no thanks for the suggestion." Not to mention attacking me for something I said about Stanza, when I didn't even mention Stanza. Please. . .lighten up. . .I'm on your side. . .and trying to help.
because I have tried and what I have seen to date is not very encouraging. If you own an iPad and have had luck directly loading a PG book from PG onto your iPad and can read it then please share with us how because that will certainly affect my purchase decision -- or lack thereof.
Yes one can use the apple ibooks app to read copies of PG books redistributed by Apple where Apple has stripped the PG legalese and acknowledgements - at least the first 20,000 titles, the most recent stuff doesn't seem to be there. I have already said this in previous emails.
Yet this is a case of "had luck directly loading a PG book," though not "from PG onto your iPad" but "can read it". . . . Personally, I don't care where anyone gets our books from, just as long as we get them out to people. As for the more recent titles, yes, most people "start at the beginning, and continue on until they get to the end." However, I am guessing even if/when they catch up, there will still be some delay, as is true for any numbers of other sites that have relayed our books from us to others in format variety, or other change, that gives them a certain appeal beyond our own formats. Some of these hand out nearly as many as we do from our largest sites. Our goal is the most eBooks to the most people. All of these people are helping us do this, and we don't pay them anything. In a very real sense Apple, Amazon, et al, work for Project Gutenberg.
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