i stand by my post, which most certainly did not "sully" michael's memory. the archives are available -- and i can furnish people the months that are missing from the "official" site -- if anybody wants to refresh themselves on michael's positions, since many people here seem to have forgotten. and greg, i could fisk every one of your paragraphs, but quite honestly, if you wanted to have a discussion, i've been here for a full decade now -- when, for the most part, almost all of that time, you ignored this list -- so by this time, as i noted recently, i -- like many others -- just don't care. i used to care, but it's exhausting to bang your head against a brick wall. i made my point. i don't care to engage any further in this particular dialog. that is all. thank you. have a nice day. -bowerbird