Curiously the Fredonia edition of Mein Kampf, translated by James Murphy, is listed as "Currently, item can be shipped only within the U.S. ". This would seem to indicate no copyright in the US but perhaps copyright in EU. More grist for the mill. ----- Original Message ----- From: N Wolcott To: Project Gutenberg Volunteer Discussion Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 11:18 AM Subject: Clearance question - Mein Kampf Why is it that PG maintains the fiction that MK is still in copyright when Fredonia is publishing a PD version? Obviously they know something we don't or haven't bothered to find out. Fredonia books are printed and distriibuted in the US. Fredonia has 1770 PD books listed on Amazon.com and University Press of the Pacific (Honolulu) have 3407, many of these post 1923. Fredonia in fact lists the source they are copying in their books. I have not examined any Pacific Press books yet. It would seem that PG would not be treading in dangerous waters by following the lead of these publishers. I agree that the fact that numerous copies of MK survive on the Internet is no reason to assume PD status, but hard copy books in quantity in the US are another matter which should bear some study. I have yet to see a book by these publishers where research does not show a presumption of PD status Perhaps PG if not "pushing " the envelope, should at least crawl inside it. N Wolcott nwolcott2@post.harvard.edu