Re: !@!Re: [gutvol-d] [Fwd: Folio files]
----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Newby" <gbnewby@pglaf.org>
On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 03:56:11PM -0800, Andrew Sly wrote:
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004, Marcello Perathoner wrote:
Michael Hart wrote:
It is VERY important to keep example of files that once had free readers that are available no longer. . .if nothing more than examples of why we don't put everything into any particular proprietary format.
Would there be a better way to keep those "examples" than to keep them in the collection buried beneath a ton of other files where they just pop up per chance to disgruntle users who inadvertently download them ?
When old files get reposted in the new directory structure, any formats like this, that cannot be updated, are moved into an "old" directory.
Is that something like what you were thinking?
Andrew
While this is our usual method, unfortunately this particular title (#900) is its own eBook # in the Folio format.
May 1997 Decline/Fall Of The Roman Empire, by Gibbon, Folio[dfre310f.xxx] 900
I think this is the only .nfo file we have.
So any chance we can convert this file to a text file, make that the main entry and move the .nfo file to the OLD subdirectory? Josh
On Wed, 15 Dec 2004, Joshua Hutchinson wrote:
----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Newby" <gbnewby@pglaf.org>
On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 03:56:11PM -0800, Andrew Sly wrote:
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004, Marcello Perathoner wrote:
Michael Hart wrote:
It is VERY important to keep example of files that once had free readers that are available no longer. . .if nothing more than examples of why we don't put everything into any particular proprietary format.
Would there be a better way to keep those "examples" than to keep them in the collection buried beneath a ton of other files where they just pop up per chance to disgruntle users who inadvertently download them ?
When old files get reposted in the new directory structure, any formats like this, that cannot be updated, are moved into an "old" directory.
Is that something like what you were thinking?
Andrew
While this is our usual method, unfortunately this particular title (#900) is its own eBook # in the Folio format.
May 1997 Decline/Fall Of The Roman Empire, by Gibbon, Folio[dfre310f.xxx] 900
I think this is the only .nfo file we have.
So any chance we can convert this file to a text file, make that the main entry and move the .nfo file to the OLD subdirectory?
Josh
Please stop trying to rewrite history. . . . This should be kept as a straighforward example of what can and DOES happen with proprietary formats. michael PS You probably don't remember the previous example of WordStar.
-------Original Message------- From: Michael S. Hart; Project Gutenberg Volunteer Dis cussion Date: 12/15/04 23:07:36 To: Project Gutenberg Volunteer Discussion Subject: Re: !@!Re: [gutvol-d] [Fwd: Folio files] Please stop trying to rewrite history. . . . This should be kept as a straighforward example of what can and DOES happen with proprietary formats. michael Duh! I have downloaded so many reading formats, for making reading a pleasure for the eyes. At the final count, it all boils down to get a good version of text [I shrivel from saying a 'perfect version'> and run a script which could make it easier for your eyes. Aesthetics dictate, that all those beatiful images are included in. What else does the 99% of the whole wide world of readers <having been fortunate enough to have an internet connection> need? <Pleading forgiveness from the scholarly readers.> You probably don't remember the previous example of WordStar. Beg your pardon Sir. :-) Avinash.______________________________________________ gutvol-d mailing list gutvol-d@lists.pglaf.org http://lists.pglaf.org/listinfo.cgi/gutvol-d
Michael Hart wrote:
Please stop trying to rewrite history. . . .
Please stop kicking history in the teeth of people who don't care and just want to read a book.
This should be kept as a straighforward example of what can and DOES happen with proprietary formats.
It should be kept, yes, but not in the main archive. Please, write a "Hall of Shame" page or something and link the files from there. -- Marcello Perathoner webmaster@gutenberg.org
On Wed, 15 Dec 2004, Marcello Perathoner wrote:
Michael Hart wrote:
Please stop trying to rewrite history. . . .
Please stop kicking history in the teeth of people who don't care and just want to read a book.
Not trying to make it the default, if that is now the issue.
This should be kept as a straighforward example of what can and DOES happen with proprietary formats.
It should be kept, yes, but not in the main archive. Please, write a "Hall of Shame" page or something and link the files from there.
Sorry, it should not be relegated to museum status.
-- Marcello Perathoner webmaster@gutenberg.org
People, people,
From the standpoint of an archivist, I have to fall on the side of keeping all file formats available and accessible to the reader. PG is as much a historical catalog as it is a library. How hard is it to have the search page list ALL of the files we have in our collection under that name (pssst ... much like we have now?). Leave it to the discretion of the user to download the format they wish to.
If the Folio files aren't listed along with the others, how will our readers know they are there? Some solutions: 1. List all of the files in PG per book, along with a legend that explains to the user what the formats mean. 2. Put up an info page that lets users know ALL file formats we carry. I'm happy to help put this together if appropriate. There's nothing wrong in keeping archive formats around. As Chief Wiggum says, "I hope this has taught you kids a lesson: kids never learn." Maitri --- Marcello Perathoner <marcello@perathoner.de> wrote:
Michael Hart wrote:
Please stop trying to rewrite history. . . .
Please stop kicking history in the teeth of people who don't care and
just want to read a book.
This should be kept as a straighforward example of what can and DOES happen with proprietary formats.
It should be kept, yes, but not in the main archive. Please, write a "Hall of Shame" page or something and link the files from there.
-- Marcello Perathoner webmaster@gutenberg.org
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