Re: [gutvol-d] Attempt to add: Flight From The City
The Author seems to have passed away as per this and other sites on him. http://www.cooperativeindividualism.org/loomis_borsodi_bio.html http://www.izaak.unh.edu/specoll/mancoll/borsodi.htm Vijay --- On Sat 05/21, Janet Kegg < jmk@his.com > wrote: From: Janet Kegg [mailto: jmk@his.com] To: rvijay07@myway.com, gutvol-d@lists.pglaf.org Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 07:45:27 -0400 Subject: Re: [gutvol-d] Attempt to add: Flight From The City <br>I followed the link you gave for "Flight from the City" and see the<br>ebook posted states it is "copyright 1933". So it is not in the<br>public domain in the U.S. and cannot be added to PG. For your<br>information, the general rule for PG is that the book was published in<br>1922 or earlier.<br><br> <br><br>On Sat, 21 May 2005 06:31:29 -0400 (EDT), you wrote:<br><br>><br>>Hello everyone:<br>><br>>Here is my attempt to add a book to the PG collection and a response in this regard. <br>><br>>Steve, the Author of the site soliandearth.org is confident that this book is Public Domain.<br>><br>>Can this book be added to the PG Collection ? Please advice.<br>><br>>Thanks in advance.<br>><br>>Sincerely,<br>><br>>Vijay<br>><br>>Definition of Public Domain for Reference:<br>>http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/okbooks.html<br>><br>><br>> --- On Sat 05/21, Steve Solomon < stsolomo@soilandhealth.org > wrote:<br>>From: Steve Solomon [mailto: stsolomo@soilandhealth.org]<br>>To: rvijay07@myway.com<br>>Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 19:16:11 +1000<br>>Subject: Re: Email from the soilandhealth.org web site<br>><br>>>>Vijay, If you are a PG member then you are for sure familiar with the rules of Public Domain. Alive/dead has nothing to do with it. It would be miraculous if Borsodi lives in the same body he lived in when he was being Ralph Borsodi !Steve<br>><br>>Original Message From: <rvijay07@myway.com><br>>To: <stsolomo@soilandhealth.org><br>>Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 12:05 PM<br>Subject:<br>>>> Greetings Steve ! I see that the book below (Flight From the City) is Public Domain. Can you please provide the related proof since I believe that the Author is still alive.<br>>http://soilandhealth.org/03sov/0302hsted/030204borsodi/030204borsoditoc.html I am presently a PG Volunteer and would like to see this book added to the gutenberg.org collection/library. Hence my request.<br>>Thank you in advance.<br>><br>>Vijay<br>><br>>_______________________________________________<br>>No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding.<br>>Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com<br>><br>><br>>_______________________________________________<br>>gutvol-d mailing list<br>>gutvol-d@lists.pglaf.org<br>>http://lists.pglaf.org/listinfo.cgi/gutvol-d<br><br> _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com
The Author seems to have passed away as per this and other sites on him.
I am afraid that is not really relevant. However, if the heirs want to submit the book for PG, that should be possible. Also, there is currently a movement afoot in the US (initiated by the US Copyright Office) to liberate orphan works. However, it may take a couple of years before PG can legally publish these works. If you are planning to submit books to PG, please read the FAQ first. You can find it at <http://www.gutenberg.org/faq/C-10.php>. It is a hefty document, but it does have most of the answers, and is easy to read. Also read the Copyright Howto: <http://www.gutenberg.org/howto/copyright-howto> Even if you are not planning to submit books, reading a FAQ is always the polite thing to do before you enter a conversation.
Steve, the Author of the site soliandearth.org is confident that this book is Public Domain.
That is not how I read his reply, but perhaps he can elaborate. -- branko collin collin@xs4all.nl
From: "Branko Collin" <collin@xs4all.nl>
I am afraid that is not really relevant. However, if the heirs want to submit the book for PG, that should be possible.
A couple of months ago, I did a little digging out of curiousity to find out who owned the copyright to Mein Kampf. Apparently it's the Austrian Government,who refuse to allow it to be published in Austria, but otherwise have no interest in it. But it's definitely still copyright by either US or life+70 countries' standards. Dave Doty
From: "Branko Collin" <collin@xs4all.nl>
I am afraid that is not really relevant. However, if the heirs want to submit the book for PG, that should be possible.
A couple of months ago, I did a little digging out of curiousity to find out who owned the copyright to Mein Kampf. Apparently it's the Austrian Government,who refuse to allow it to be published in Austria, but otherwise have no interest in it. But it's definitely still copyright by either US or life+70 countries' standards.
Rik Lambers' Constitional Code blog had some discussion on this topic (I should know :-)) at <http://constitutionalcode.blogspot.com/2005/04/mein-kampf- copyright.html>.
From what I understand, the German state of Bavaria seized the assets of Adolf Hitler after his death, including the copyright to Mein Kampf, and has been asserting its copyrigth aggressively since then.
In Life+50 countries (i.e. most of the globe), Mein Kampf should be public domain since 1996, but not in the US or the EU. -- branko collin collin@xs4all.nl
sorry URL didn't work. Either Time or Newsweek had a 2 page article on this a year or two ago. In the US @ was vested in the US property custodian, then returned to the German Government after the occupation ended. The German publishing houses were still collecting royalties, but then agreed after publicity to turn them over to the holocaust fund I believe. However the English translation published in 1936 , which is not from the original German version has been floating around on the Web and may be PD in Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Branko Collin" <collin@xs4all.nl> To: <Gutvol-d@lists.pglaf.org> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 12:53 PM Subject: Re: [gutvol-d] Attempt to add: Flight From The City
From: "Branko Collin" <collin@xs4all.nl>
I am afraid that is not really relevant. However, if the heirs want to submit the book for PG, that should be possible.
A couple of months ago, I did a little digging out of curiousity to find out who owned the copyright to Mein Kampf. Apparently it's the Austrian Government,who refuse to allow it to be published in Austria, but otherwise have no interest in it. But it's definitely still copyright by either US or life+70 countries' standards.
Rik Lambers' Constitional Code blog had some discussion on this topic (I should know :-)) at <http://constitutionalcode.blogspot.com/2005/04/mein-kampf- copyright.html>.
From what I understand, the German state of Bavaria seized the assets of Adolf Hitler after his death, including the copyright to Mein Kampf, and has been asserting its copyrigth aggressively since then.
In Life+50 countries (i.e. most of the globe), Mein Kampf should be public domain since 1996, but not in the US or the EU.
-- branko collin collin@xs4all.nl _______________________________________________ gutvol-d mailing list gutvol-d@lists.pglaf.org http://lists.pglaf.org/listinfo.cgi/gutvol-d
On 5/21/05, Branko Collin <collin@xs4all.nl> wrote:
Also read the Copyright Howto: <http://www.gutenberg.org/howto/copyright-howto>
Even if you are not planning to submit books, reading a FAQ is always the polite thing to do before you enter a conversation.
Steve, the Author of the site soliandearth.org is confident that this book is Public Domain.
That is not how I read his reply, but perhaps he can elaborate.
At first glance it looks eligible for a Rule 6 clearance, but those are a lot of work.. unless you particularly want that specific book in PG, I would look for something that can be cleared more easily. (I have a Jefferson biography cleared under Rule 6 for the 4th of July at DP.. it took a lot of work both from me and Mr. Newby to clear it. Hopefully the new copyright rules will simplify this process.) R C
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