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aaron said:
Wow! That is the dumbest economic theory I have ever heard in my life!
then do i get some kind of prize? :+)
A company is going to spend money on a bunch of lawyers that they don't need, and pay for a bunch of licences that have no legal standing, and some how this will magically legitimize the thing which they are paying for in the first place? Yep. Sure. Makes plenty of sense to me.
well, they won't pay for "licenses that have no legal standing", and no, microsoft is _not_ spending money on "a bunch of lawyers that they don't need", because they _do_ need 'em. and once they've got them, they'll put 'em to use. but otherwise, you've pretty much got it all right. a company with "more lawyers than a small country" _wants_ everything -- _everything_ -- to become a matter falling in the purview of the legal system. (and their lawyers are all to happy to make it happen.)
No news there. Companies have been doing this for years and years.
actually, it _did_ make the news when bill gates recently announced this as a goal for his company. and sure enough, the number of patent applications that microsoft has made lately has escalated greatly. maybe bill wasn't the first to do it. he very rarely is. but you can bet he will be the richest. he usually is...
It makes sense. Business isn't about competition and making money, it's about protecting your competitors.
making money _is_ about protecting yourself from competitors. and maybe you can't eliminate the ones who are as big as you, but you can most certainly strangle all the little ones in the crib. and those the competitors who are as big as you are? you'll find they're on the other side of the crib, willing to strangle with you... you don't think the big auto companies, for example, work together? sure, they compete on the salesroom floors. but when it comes to things like lobbying -- you know, the _important_ stuff -- they are best buddies. but an upstart car company, one making, let's say, a more-efficient electric car? it'd be promptly squashed like a bug...
Couching 9th grade conspiracy theories between statements of fact which is apparent to everyone doesn't make them any less ridiculous.
marcello just pegged me as a 5-year-old. now you have promoted me to 9th grade. i must be the only 5-year-old in the 9th grade. the one thing all of you seem incapable of doing is to ignore me. well, maybe there are two things, since y'all have a hard time staying on-topic too... *** hey look! there's a shiny test-suite, available now!
http://snowy.arsc.alaska.edu/bowerbird/test-suite/test-suite.zml http://snowy.arsc.alaska.edu/bowerbird/test-suite/test-suite.html
it purports to contain the range of features in the p.g. library! do you see any shortcomings in it? what would you include? -bowerbird

Bowerbird@aol.com wrote:
marcello just pegged me as a 5-year-old. now you have promoted me to 9th grade. i must be the only 5-year-old in the 9th grade.
Learn to read! I said a five-year-old could make a better demo than yours in half an hour. I never said you were five years old, even if you very much sound like it.
http://snowy.arsc.alaska.edu/bowerbird/test-suite/test-suite.html
do you see any shortcomings in it?
Your poetry stinks ! -- Marcello Perathoner webmaster@gutenberg.org

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A company is going to spend money on a bunch of lawyers that they don't need, and pay for a bunch of licences that have no legal standing, and some how this will magically legitimize the thing which they are paying for in the first place? Yep. Sure. Makes plenty of sense to me.
well, they won't pay for "licenses that have no legal standing", and no, microsoft is _not_ spending money on "a bunch of lawyers that they don't need", because they _do_ need 'em. and once they've got them, they'll put 'em to use.
but otherwise, you've pretty much got it all right.
a company with "more lawyers than a small country" _wants_ everything -- _everything_ -- to become a matter falling in the purview of the legal system. (and their lawyers are all to happy to make it happen.)
This would require additional laws to be written. So, do you have any examples of this? Or is it more playground theorizing?
It makes sense. Business isn't about competition and making money, it's about protecting your competitors.
making money _is_ about protecting yourself from competitors.
And that's why you said, "all of the big corporations pay licensing fees gladly. they realize that -- among themselves -- they're just shuffling a lot of cash back and forth in the process -- which they don't mind, it keeps their accountants busy -- so none of them really _make_ a lot, or _lose_ a lot..." So companies make money by hiring a bunch of accountants to keep busy, shuffling money to their competitors, and paying licensing fees gladly? It's so simple! Are you by chance the CFO or on the board of any publicly traded companies? I'm just wondering so I can warn my infester friends.
and maybe you can't eliminate the ones who are as big as you, but you can most certainly strangle all the little ones in the crib.
and those the competitors who are as big as you are? you'll find they're on the other side of the crib, willing to strangle with you...
you don't think the big auto companies, for example, work together? sure, they compete on the salesroom floors. but when it comes to things like lobbying -- you know, the _important_ stuff -- they are best buddies. but an upstart car company, one making, let's say, a more-efficient electric car? it'd be promptly squashed like a bug...
So, the "important stuff" for auto companies includes "things like lobbying," and all that competition on the sales room floor is just for show. Just because a company joins forces with a competitor to defeat one issue, it doesn't mean that they are not in competition on everything else.
Couching 9th grade conspiracy theories between statements of fact which is apparent to everyone doesn't make them any less ridiculous.
marcello just pegged me as a 5-year-old. now you have promoted me to 9th grade. i must be the only 5-year-old in the 9th grade.
You need not be a 9th grader in order to hatch 9th grade conspiracy theories, as you have so perfectly demonstrated.
do you see any shortcomings in it? what would you include?
I'll let others point out the short comings, be told that they're wrong, and then see their suggestions implemented in the next version. Aaron Cannon - -- E-mail: cannona@fireantproductions.com Skype: cannona MSN Messenger: cannona@hotmail.com (Do not send E-mail to the hotmail address.) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) - GPGrelay v0.959 Comment: Key available from all major key servers. iD8DBQFDPGF1I7J99hVZuJcRAvxQAKDuOmVrYScTxgGikuKm3wOmBqn3lQCcCIeN GwIupJ8a+kSSkElzOaISl9s= =iDdE -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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Aaron Cannon
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Bowerbird@aol.com
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Marcello Perathoner