evidently, distributed proofreaders is "branching out" from project gutenberg:
Distributed Proofreaders, a well-regarded group of volunteers, will
http://www.solutiongrove.com/kmw/ctn/files/view/LINCTbiz_planKK_1.23.06.html it says: provide
public domain books. LibraryCity will contribute resources for DP to expand.
sounds cozy... librarycity, one of the main organizations involved in this plan, has as its director david rothman, and i'm sure that jon noring is involved with it somehow as well... they're looking for "sponsors", suggesting "an annual fee of $1000", or even all the way up to $350,000, which buys you a "thank you" from within the browser of the one million of their clients you've sponsored... and this:
LibraryCity’s revenue will come from several sources. It will partner with an Internet bookstore to obtain large numbers of e-books from publishers and to offer electronic books to libraries. The model will be a mix of purchase, short-term rentals and subscription fees. When libraries do not carry books, patrons will have an opportunity to rent or purchase them through the existing store and through the retail arm of LibraryCity called BookTry.com.
it continues:
LibraryCity and BookTry.com will help popularize the OpenReader format and interactive software that OSoft will offer. In return and also out of public-spiritedness, OSoft will agree to donate a certain percentage of its earnings and/or revenue to the Epie Institute, the 501(c)(3) pass-through, for use with LibraryCity and other partners within LINCT.
and then:
The above efficiencies and close relationship with OSoft, a provider of interactive software that allows comments and even blogs to be embedded within specific locations in books, will enable LibraryCity to be more competitive against such library-related companies as OverDrive.com.
like the subject says, "interesting..." -bowerbird
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 19:52:30 EST, Bowerbird@aol.com wrote: |evidently, distributed proofreaders is "branching out" from project |gutenberg: |> |http://www.solutiongrove.com/kmw/ctn/files/view/LINCTbiz_planKK_1.23.06.html | |it says: |> Distributed Proofreaders, a well-regarded group of volunteers, will |provide |> public domain books. LibraryCity will contribute resources for DP to |expand. | |sounds cozy... | |librarycity, one of the main organizations involved in this plan, has as its |director |david rothman, and i'm sure that jon noring is involved with it somehow as |well... | |they're looking for "sponsors", suggesting "an annual fee of $1000", |or even all the way up to $350,000, which buys you a "thank you" from |within the browser of the one million of their clients you've sponsored... | |and this: |> LibraryCity?s revenue will come from several sources. |> It will partner with an Internet bookstore to |> obtain large numbers of e-books from publishers |> and to offer electronic books to libraries. |> The model will be a mix of purchase, short-term rentals |> and subscription fees. When libraries do not carry books, |> patrons will have an opportunity to rent or purchase them |> through the existing store and through the retail arm of |> LibraryCity called BookTry.com. | |it continues: |> LibraryCity and BookTry.com will help popularize the |> OpenReader format and interactive software that OSoft will offer. |> In return and also out of public-spiritedness, OSoft will agree |> to donate a certain percentage of its earnings and/or revenue |> to the Epie Institute, the 501(c)(3) pass-through, |> for use with LibraryCity and other partners within LINCT. | |and then: |> The above efficiencies and close relationship with OSoft, |> a provider of interactive software that allows comments and |> even blogs to be embedded within specific locations in books, |> will enable LibraryCity to be more competitive against |> such library-related companies as OverDrive.com. | |like the subject says, "interesting..." *If* this happens I wonder how many volunteers DP will lose. -- Dave Fawthrop <dave hyphenologist co uk> Freedom of Speech, Expression, Religion, and Democracy are the keys to Civilization, together with legal acceptance of Fundamental Human rights.
From: Dave Fawthrop <hyphen@hyphenologist.co.uk>
*If* this happens I wonder how many volunteers DP will lose.
Why would they lose any? They give DP resources to expand, and use the books. Since they are already free to use the books, the only thing that would change is more financial resources for DP. It didn't say anything about exclusive use and even if they tried, well they admitted right there on the webpage that the books are public domain, so they wouldn't be able to keep PG or anyone else from using them. Dave Doty
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 08:18:55 +0000, "Dave Doty" <davedoty@hotmail.com> wrote: |From: Dave Fawthrop <hyphen@hyphenologist.co.uk> | |>*If* this happens I wonder how many volunteers DP will lose. | |Why would they lose any? Because I do books for PG, Pro Bono Publico. Any dilution of this principle by association with commercial organisations would concern me. -- Dave Fawthrop <dave hyphenologist co uk> Freedom of Speech, Expression, Religion, and Democracy are the keys to Civilization, together with legal acceptance of Fundamental Human rights.
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 08:18:55 +0000, "Dave Doty" <davedoty@hotmail.com> wrote: |From: Dave Fawthrop <hyphen@hyphenologist.co.uk> | |>*If* this happens I wonder how many volunteers DP will lose. | |Why would they lose any? They give DP resources to expand, and use the |books. Since they are already free to use the books, the only thing that |would change is more financial resources for DP. It didn't say anything |about exclusive use and even if they tried, well they admitted right there |on the webpage that the books are public domain, so they wouldn't be able to |keep PG or anyone else from using them. In the UK "He who pays the Piper calls the tune." Does this not happen in the USA? -- Dave Fawthrop <dave hyphenologist co uk> Freedom of Speech, Expression, Religion, and Democracy are the keys to Civilization, together with legal acceptance of Fundamental Human rights.
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006, Dave Fawthrop wrote:
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 08:18:55 +0000, "Dave Doty" <davedoty@hotmail.com> wrote:
|From: Dave Fawthrop <hyphen@hyphenologist.co.uk> | |>*If* this happens I wonder how many volunteers DP will lose. | |Why would they lose any? They give DP resources to expand, and use the |books. Since they are already free to use the books, the only thing that |would change is more financial resources for DP. It didn't say anything |about exclusive use and even if they tried, well they admitted right there |on the webpage that the books are public domain, so they wouldn't be able to |keep PG or anyone else from using them.
In the UK "He who pays the Piper calls the tune." Does this not happen in the USA?
This is WHY Project Gutenberg has remained independent. This is HOW Project Gutenberg has remained independent. This is why I have been willing to work the last three years without any salary, so PG remains independent. Michael S. Hart Founder Project Gutenberg
Bowerbird@aol.com wrote:
Distributed Proofreaders, a well-regarded group of volunteers, will provide public domain books. LibraryCity will contribute resources for DP to expand.
LibraryCity / OSoft / openreader.org is just a bunch of self-referential entites trying to give some credibility to each other. Like google-spammers build link-farms these people are building organisation-farms. Nothing much to bother about. Norings results so far are failure-to-failure comparable to yours.
they're looking for "sponsors", suggesting "an annual fee of $1000", or even all the way up to $350,000, which buys you a "thank you" from within the browser of the one million of their clients you've sponsored...
This is worth a new thread ... -- Marcello Perathoner webmaster@gutenberg.org
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