Re: 14.8 million ipads sold (in 9 months) during 2010
gee, it's already past 1pm, pacific, and no sight of jim. anyway... here's another question for him, when he does show up. if p.g. were to adopt .html as "a master format", then _which_ version of .html would it be? the lower-bound on accepted .html files these days is 4.01-transitional... but i think a variety of other .html and .xhtml versions are accepted. and meanwhile, html5 is looming large... indeed, you might have heard that one of the two big organizations that "controls" .html has even decided to _drop_versioning_, and renamed html5 as "html"... from now on, it will be "a living standard", dictated solely by whatever definition exists on its website... meanwhile, the other organization is _stressing_ the "5" in .html5 (instead of dropping it), and came out with a _logo_ that looks like a superman badge, but with a "5" instead of the "s". and then there are all the wars over the video codec used in html5. it seems there's no "standard" there. indeed, there are even discussions about what should be included in the html5 name. should css3 be in it? how about geolocation? offline storage? webworkers? all by itself, it seems, html5 makes good on the rub:
"the reason standards are so nice is that there are so many to choose from."
yet _somehow,_ jim, our hero, is gonna come up with a version of .html for p.g. to use as its master-format. so please, jim, reveal this "great compromise". the world is waiting... -bowerbird
Can someone please add the download counts for PDF format files to this location, so that BB can see how compelling the actual PG customer base finds his rhetoric? http://www.gutenberg.org/browse/scores/pretty-pictures If you want to put PDF up on PG BB, who is stopping you? Certainly not me.
On 02/02/2011 10:20 PM, Jim Adcock wrote:
Can someone please add the download counts for PDF format files to this location, so that BB can see how compelling the actual PG customer base finds his rhetoric?
And what would that prove? That the `actual PG customer base´ cannot download a PDF that doesn't exist? That only a very small number of PG ebooks comes with PDF files? And as a consequence PDF downloads must be very few? But we can use data from another site that offers PDF, EPUB and Kindle for all books: http://manybooks.net/format_stats.php PDF 4,347,732 ePub 3,129,178 eReader 2,021,924 FictionBook 1,575,736 Kindle 1,562,046 Plucker 1,297,939 ... What does this actual data say about YOUR rhetoric and complete ignorance of fact? -- Marcello Perathoner webmaster@gutenberg.org
http://manybooks.net/format_stats.php PDF 4,347,732 ePub 3,129,178 ...
What does this actual data say about YOUR rhetoric and complete ignorance of fact?
Then why not you and BB get together and put up PDF's on the PG website? That still wouldn't imply that one should take the dumb-down approach of manybooks where they throw away formatting before emitting their lowest-common-denominator efforts.
Is there some way we can collect these figures daily, weekly, etc? mh On Wed, 2 Feb 2011, Jim Adcock wrote:
http://manybooks.net/format_stats.php
PDF 4,347,732 ePub 3,129,178 ...
What does this actual data say about YOUR rhetoric and complete ignorance of fact?
Then why not you and BB get together and put up PDF's on the PG website? That still wouldn't imply that one should take the dumb-down approach of manybooks where they throw away formatting before emitting their lowest-common-denominator efforts.
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On Wed, February 2, 2011 2:20 pm, Jim Adcock wrote:
Can someone please add the download counts for PDF format files to this location, so that BB can see how compelling the actual PG customer base finds his rhetoric?
http://www.gutenberg.org/browse/scores/pretty-pictures
If you want to put PDF up on PG BB, who is stopping you? Certainly not me.
I've been playing around with my local library's connection to Overdrive's e-book lending program recently. One of the things I have found fascinating is that for books that are available in both ePub and PDF formats when a book has a waiting list for the ePub version the PDF version is immediately available 90% of the time. In one specific case I was number 37 on the waiting list for ePub, but the PDF version was available for immediate checkout. I would guess that in the world at large PDF is even less popular than Impoverished Text Format. An automated process that can take a master format and produce PDF has, I suppose, a modicum of interest, but it has virtually no bearing on the issue of what the master format should be, except to the extent that the master format must be capable of retaining all the information required to produce a PDF file (on which count, PG's ITF fails).
Hi, Am 02.02.2011 um 22:57 schrieb Lee Passey:
On Wed, February 2, 2011 2:20 pm, Jim Adcock wrote:
Can someone please add the download counts for PDF format files to this location, so that BB can see how compelling the actual PG customer base finds his rhetoric?
http://www.gutenberg.org/browse/scores/pretty-pictures
If you want to put PDF up on PG BB, who is stopping you? Certainly not me.
I've been playing around with my local library's connection to Overdrive's e-book lending program recently. One of the things I have found fascinating is that for books that are available in both ePub and PDF formats when a book has a waiting list for the ePub version the PDF version is immediately available 90% of the time. In one specific case I was number 37 on the waiting list for ePub, but the PDF version was available for immediate checkout. You actually, have to wait for a ePub. Thats digiatal right. big laugh.
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