Re: [gutvol-d] Technical Collection for Consideration.
What is our official stance on stuff like this? There are some pretty useful documents out there that we could probably add to the collection under the circumstances Marcello describes. Josh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcello Perathoner" <marcello@perathoner.de> To: "Project Gutenberg Volunteer Discussion" <gutvol-d@lists.pglaf.org> Subject: Re: [gutvol-d] Technical Collection for Consideration. Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 13:11:28 +0200
Jonathan Ingram wrote:
Sadly the overly long length of modern copyright terms mean that we won't see a large influx of public domain computer programming material for a while.
Many FSF books are copylefted. One I should definitely like to see in the collection is:
Free Software Free Society
selected essays of
Richard M. Stallman
My paper copy says:
"Permission is granted to make and distribute verbatim copies of this book provided the copyright notice and this notice are preserved on all copies."
-- Marcello Perathoner webmaster@gutenberg.org
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On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 07:35:22AM -0500, Joshua Hutchinson wrote:
What is our official stance on stuff like this? There are some pretty useful documents out there that we could probably add to the collection under the circumstances Marcello describes.
Josh
We've carried ESR's Jargon File for a long time. Additional writings along the lines mentioned below are welcome, but (a) we still ask permission of the author; and (b) they need to be reformatted to meet our guidelines; and (c) there is no guarantee that "someone" will be able to keep our version up to date with the latest available version. I'm generally opposed to technical manuals, because they become outdated so quickly. We have one or two of these, as experiments. Maybe someone will want to start a site (PG affiliate or not) that is devoted to preservation of such materials, sort of like the Internet Archive's effort to preserve abandoned software. Definitely worthwhile, but not something PG can do too well today. -- Greg (sorry for my late response...)
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcello Perathoner" <marcello@perathoner.de> To: "Project Gutenberg Volunteer Discussion" <gutvol-d@lists.pglaf.org> Subject: Re: [gutvol-d] Technical Collection for Consideration. Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 13:11:28 +0200
Jonathan Ingram wrote:
Sadly the overly long length of modern copyright terms mean that we won't see a large influx of public domain computer programming material for a while.
Many FSF books are copylefted. One I should definitely like to see in the collection is:
Free Software Free Society
selected essays of
Richard M. Stallman
My paper copy says:
"Permission is granted to make and distribute verbatim copies of this book provided the copyright notice and this notice are preserved on all copies."
-- Marcello Perathoner webmaster@gutenberg.org
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From: Greg Newby <gbnewby@pglaf.org>
I'm generally opposed to technical manuals, because they become outdated so quickly. We have one or two of these, as experiments. Maybe someone will want to start a site (PG affiliate or not) that is devoted to preservation of such materials
If the Wikipedia people haven't started up a sister project for this, it seems perfect for them. Dave Doty
On Sun, 29 May 2005 15:42:08 -0700, Greg Newby <gbnewby@pglaf.org> wrote: | On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 07:35:22AM -0500, Joshua Hutchinson wrote: | I'm generally opposed to technical manuals, because they become | outdated so quickly. But, speaking as an ex-engineer, on the other hand the ways of doing things and/or making things rapidly becomes lost when people stop doing whatever the manual is about. This loss is significant, and would be reduced if the manuals were preserved as e-text. Surely PG is about preserving things which might be lost, among other things. If Fred Dibnah's "Made in Britain" http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/programmes/dibnah/ ever makes it to the USA watch it. He was exploring the almost lost skills/arts of making a steam Traction Engine. Fred Dibnah has a cult following in the UK. -- Dave Fawthrop <dave hyphenologist co uk> Beware of anyone posting X-No-Archive yes, they must have something to hide or something to be ashamed of. Your task, should you wish to accept it, is to determine *what*.
Hi. One site already doing this to a point is listed below. You might want to look at it. The site owner might be willing to start a separate section for technical manuals since they fit generally into the mission of the site. This of course is not related at all to PG. http://textfiles.com/ At 03:42 PM 5/29/2005 -0700, you wrote:
Maybe someone will want to start a site (PG affiliate or not) that is devoted to preservation of such materials, sort of like the Internet Archive's effort to preserve abandoned software. Definitely worthwhile, but not something PG can do too well today.
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