BB, Do you actually have a spec or document describing ZML anywhere? Do you have a sample _implementation_ I can try, rather than just some output? Alex (Even if you'd rather it be backchannel) -- Alex Buie Network Coordinator / Server Engineer KWD Services, Inc Media and Hosting Solutions +1(703)445-3391 +1(480)253-9640 +1(703)919-8090 abuie@kwdservices.com