re: Re: [gutvol-d] Why Bowerbird is a kook

marcello said:
You said it was Open Source.
my open-source effort failed to attract any programmers. so it's dead in the water. (oh, and here's a hint, marcello: if you see me issuing a _press_release_, it's likely a joke, as i make fun of people who think "spin" is doing something. if it's a pro-x.m.l. press release to boot, you can be certain.) but yeah, no programmers = no open-source program... however, jon noring's open-source project is still alive -- http://www.openreader.org -- and i can assure you that that one is _not_ a put-on. (which doesn't mean it will eventually succeed either.) so i would encourage any interested people to join that. i'm guessing jon would welcome programmers _warmly_. meanwhile, my own individual viewer-program is fine! did i mention that i'm now getting the beta-test going? you can subscribe! zml_talk-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
Or are you going back on that?
many open-source proposals never get off the ground. just a fact of life. thanks for your interest, however. but now i must get back to the discussion in progress... -bowerbird p.s. i'm not "soooo sensitive", as you put it. if name-calling _is_ condoned on this list -- i still haven't got an answer -- then that's just _fine_ with me, because there are a couple tarking naugshlocks that i'd be happy to call names... :+) you see, i am able to maintain a _sense_of_humor_ in this. i just want to make sure that i understand the ground-rules...

Bowerbird@aol.com wrote:
meanwhile, my own individual viewer-program is fine! did i mention that i'm now getting the beta-test going? you can subscribe! zml_talk-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
Your beta test program isn't 'fine'. It's the most counter-intuitive software I've ever used. There's also the itty-bitty issue of it not being able to *open* files, save your preselected texts, the sources of which are conveniently hidden. The 'talk' list is farcial, as all posts must be approved by bowerbird. Mike Email me off-list if you'd like a copy of this rancid pudding without surrendering your soul/Yahoo ID.

but yeah, no programmers = no open-source program...
Aren't you the programmer in this case? You get to choose the license, as the person responsible for actually creating the project and writing the code. Or are you asking for others to write the code? David A. Desrosiers desrod@gnu-designs.com http://gnu-designs.com

Bowerbird@aol.com wrote:
my open-source effort failed to attract any programmers. so it's dead in the water. (oh, and here's a hint, marcello: if you see me issuing a _press_release_, it's likely a joke,
Let me get this straight: 1. 14 Feb 2003: You announce you will code an open source ebook reader. 2. 19 Oct 2004: You have nothing to show. 3. You retroactively declare the announcement to be a joke. 4. You think that did save your face. Think again.
bowerbird: 14 Feb 2003 press release bowerbird further indicated that he is fully confident that the effort would bear fruit quickly, since he has previously programmed a wide variety of electronic-book applications.
bowerbird: 19 Oct 2004 but yeah, no programmers = no open-source program...
So you admit you were lying to the press as you told them you were confident you could pull off this thing because you were such a good programmer yourself.
meanwhile, my own individual viewer-program is fine! did i mention that i'm now getting the beta-test going? you can subscribe! zml_talk-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
Yeah. I heard from one of your beta-testers: "Rancid pudding".
Or are you going back on that?
many open-source proposals never get off the ground.
So you just switched to closed source. Why should I be even remotely interested in a reader that: - is closed source - uses a proprietary non-standard file format - has got "rancid pudding" as best review to date? If I wanted that, minus the bad review, I would take the Micro$oft Reader, which is ready and working today. -- Marcello Perathoner webmaster@gutenberg.org
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Bowerbird@aol.com
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David A. Desrosiers
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Marcello Perathoner
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Michael Ciesielski