Fwd: Proposed CD Navigation Files now available for review

From: "John Hagerson" <j.hagerson@comcast.net> To: "'Aaron Cannon'" <cannona@fireantproductions.com> Subject: Proposed CD Navigation Files now available for review Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 08:04:16 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626
Four navigation files built for a new Project Gutenberg CD-ROM which contains primarily non-English electronic books are now available for review at http://www.aaronandgabby.com/pgcd/ The files allow one to browse the CD by Author, Language and Author, Language and Title, or Title.
The files were developed from the Project Gutenberg production prior to book 14700. The Distributed Proofreaders have been especially prolific in non-English books recently, so it seems that a number of books of recent production will be omitted regardless of where we draw the line.
I believe I have included every non-English book produced prior to 14700 with the exception of three books (7216, 7337, and 12407) where the title and author were both in Unicode characters that most fonts do not support. Each of the omitted works is in Chinese. If someone could help me obtain more information on these works, there is ample space to include them.
Please respond to the list or directly to mailto:j.hagerson@comcast.net with your comments regarding the files.
Thank you.
Aaron: Before you forward this to the list, please make sure that the http download works. My attempts to view the directory were met with a 403 error. Thank you.
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On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 11:24:03AM -0600, Aaron Cannon wrote:
From: "John Hagerson" <j.hagerson@comcast.net> To: "'Aaron Cannon'" <cannona@fireantproductions.com> Subject: Proposed CD Navigation Files now available for review Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 08:04:16 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626
Four navigation files built for a new Project Gutenberg CD-ROM which contains primarily non-English electronic books are now available for review at http://www.aaronandgabby.com/pgcd/ The files allow one to browse the CD by Author, Language and Author, Language and Title, or Title.
This is great stuff! Once it's raedy (or ready enough), I'd like to go ahead and make an .iso image to add to our collection. -- Greg
The files were developed from the Project Gutenberg production prior to book 14700. The Distributed Proofreaders have been especially prolific in non-English books recently, so it seems that a number of books of recent production will be omitted regardless of where we draw the line.
I believe I have included every non-English book produced prior to 14700 with the exception of three books (7216, 7337, and 12407) where the title and author were both in Unicode characters that most fonts do not support. Each of the omitted works is in Chinese. If someone could help me obtain more information on these works, there is ample space to include them.
Please respond to the list or directly to mailto:j.hagerson@comcast.net with your comments regarding the files.
Thank you.
Aaron: Before you forward this to the list, please make sure that the http download works. My attempts to view the directory were met with a 403 error. Thank you.
-- E-mail: cannona@fireantproductions.com Skype: cannona MSN Messenger: cannona@hotmail.com (Do not send E-mail to the hotmail address.)
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Four navigation files built for a new Project Gutenberg CD-ROM which contains primarily non-English electronic books are now available for review at http://www.aaronandgabby.com/pgcd/ The files allow one to browse the CD by Author, Language and Author, Language and Title, or Title.
This is great stuff! Once it's raedy (or ready enough), I'd like to go ahead and make an .iso image to add to our
collection. -- Greg
Why aren't we generating navigation pages from the catalog DB, instead of making HUGE single files? We should be providing indexes by Language, Subject Matter, Alphabetical Author, Alphabetical Title, etc -- all in a nicely paged manner. Other than that, I like the format of each record -- easily readable. Nice work Aaron! -- James

On Thu, Feb 03, 2005 at 02:41:09AM -0500, James Linden wrote:
Four navigation files built for a new Project Gutenberg CD-ROM which contains primarily non-English electronic books are now available for review at http://www.aaronandgabby.com/pgcd/ The files allow one to browse the CD by Author, Language and Author, Language and Title, or Title.
This is great stuff! Once it's raedy (or ready enough), I'd like to go ahead and make an .iso image to add to our
collection. -- Greg
Why aren't we generating navigation pages from the catalog DB, instead of making HUGE single files? We should be providing indexes by Language, Subject Matter, Alphabetical Author, Alphabetical Title, etc -- all in a nicely paged manner.
People using a CD or DVD directly won't necessarily have access to the catalog DB, so some sort of built-in file-based navigation seems necessary. Providing a CD-based program + database for Win or Mac or Lin or whatever would be fine, too (in addition to file-based), but we don't have one.
Other than that, I like the format of each record -- easily readable. Nice work Aaron!
Related: I'm finally making moves (thanks to the XML/RDF file) on generating ISO files on the fly, based on a list of eBook #s. Stay tuned... -- Greg

Greg Newby wrote:
On Thu, Feb 03, 2005 at 02:41:09AM -0500, James Linden wrote:
Four navigation files built for a new Project Gutenberg CD-ROM which contains primarily non-English electronic books are now available for review at http://www.aaronandgabby.com/pgcd/ The files allow one to browse the CD by Author, Language and Author, Language and Title, or Title.
This is great stuff! Once it's raedy (or ready enough), I'd like to go ahead and make an .iso image to add to our collection. -- Greg
Why aren't we generating navigation pages from the catalog DB, instead of making HUGE single files? We should be providing indexes by Language, Subject Matter, Alphabetical Author, Alphabetical Title, etc -- all in a nicely paged manner.
People using a CD or DVD directly won't necessarily have access to the catalog DB, so some sort of built-in file-based navigation seems necessary.
Providing a CD-based program + database for Win or Mac or Lin or whatever would be fine, too (in addition to file-based), but we don't have one.
The idea of _generating_ the navigation files is that we can burn static files on the CD, but generate them for each CD image version using paging, various sort options, etc. This does not require users to have access to the DB, only a simple script that creates the HTML files. -- James

At 01:41 AM 2/3/2005, you wrote: <snip>
Other than that, I like the format of each record -- easily readable. Nice work Aaron!
Thanks. I only wish I could take credit. :) Actually the majority of the work on the CD came from John Hagerson. I've just been doing some very light assisting. Nevertheless, your feedback is appreciated by both of us. Sincerely Aaron Cannon -- E-mail: cannona@fireantproductions.com Skype: cannona MSN Messenger: cannona@hotmail.com (Do not send E-mail to the hotmail address.)

At 01:23 AM 2/3/2005, you wrote:
This is great stuff! Once it's raedy (or ready enough), I'd like to go ahead and make an .iso image to add to our collection. -- Greg
Indeed. We'll be sure to build it under linux, so as to avoid any problems with capitalization of file names. -- E-mail: cannona@fireantproductions.com Skype: cannona MSN Messenger: cannona@hotmail.com (Do not send E-mail to the hotmail address.)

Hi Aaron, On 08:28:21 Aaron Cannon wrote:
Indeed. We'll be sure to build it under linux, so as to avoid any problems with capitalization of file names.
I noticed that in the BrowsebyLanguageandTitle page there is some funny business at the end, with the Welsh section appearing more than once. In general, my comment is that the pages are too large. I think a page with just language, linked to a page with the titles for that language would, for example, be more managable. ============================================================ Gardner Buchanan <gbuchana@rogers.com> Ottawa, ON FreeBSD: Where you want to go. Today.
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