the dust has not cleared, norm. what is necessary at this time is a clearinghouse, where efforts to download every set of scans that google provides are coordinated, so they can be made available at a convenient place in cyberspace. an overlap of such downloadings will unnecessarily duplicate work, and only piss off google, who has already blacklisted certain people for excessive pings. and an uncoordinated effort will almost certainly result in many of the books being neglected... project gutenberg's high profile and history makes it a natural to coordinate all of these efforts... -bowerbird