sometimes i despair
alex, that's exactly the type of response which my experience led me to expect... the only question was how long it would take. you came in under 10 minutes. congratulations. -bowerbird
On Wednesday, 26th October 2011 at 13:09:42 (GMT -0400), Bowerbird@aol.com wrote:
that's exactly the type of response which my experience led me to expect...
If you expect politeness, you first need to be considerate yourself. Setting aside the flood of abuse you regularly hurl at respected members of this list, I asked you many months ago why you -- as the only person here, to my knowledge -- insist on contributing to this list in ugly, bloated HTML emails, instead of in plain-text, which is the gold standard of mailing-lists, especially (!) tech lists. Constantly posting in HTML makes you look like a perpetual clueless newbie. Also, I made you aware many months ago that your cr*ppy AOL email software -- again, as the *only* contributor's here -- incessantly breaks the proper threading of messages from this list. With every contribution you send to this list using AOL, you break a discussion thread, creating havon on (for example) my iPad and iPhone, etc. If you don't give a damn about messing up other people's inboxes on a daily basis, you can't be surprised at the lack of civility you're experiencing, or the lack of interest in your innumerable projects. -- Yours, Alex. www.aboq.org [processed by "The Bat!", Version 4.2.44.2]
Bowerbird, imagine one minute you are the Robinson Crusoe of a new mailing list 100% dedicated to your passion: ebooks in structured plain text format(s). How would you make people join the mailing list? How would you "moderate" it? What kind of encouragement would you send to people? What kind of effective project would you make people work on? What kind of tone would you use in your emails so that people feel like they want to follow you? Again, you are Robinson and you are alone. Robinson had the Bible with him -- you "only" have the Gutenberg project. What do you do? How long do you feel sorry for the stupid human nature? What problem do you tackle first, so that people join you in tackling it? Remember: I'm not on this island. No one is. You have to start from scratch, considering how useless was the effort spent for so many years... -- Bastien
What kind of effective project would you make people work on?
Well, just to state the obvious: You can't "make" *volunteers* do anything. They have to *want* to do things. I suggest about the only way you can get volunteers to *want* to do something is to volunteer yourself to create better tools -- available for free -- that the volunteers will *want* to use in their volunteering efforts. Lots of free tools get created in the PG/DP community but they don't get supported nor does their existence get widely and appropriately disseminated. Also other tools are created in other communities which could be better applied but the PG/DP community doesn't learn about those either.
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