Re: 'Lasker's Manual of Chess'
Interesting idea. I had never even thought of chess works, despite having actually read this, way back when, I think. How would you do it, with images? Some of them could be pretty big, with lots of board positions. Re-doing them as ascii boards like on old chess servers wouldn't be too much fun, but possible? Richard ------------------------------------------------------------ This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au
On 7/5/06, rnmscott@netspace.net.au <rnmscott@netspace.net.au> wrote:
Interesting idea. I had never even thought of chess works, despite having actually read this, way back when, I think.
How would you do it, with images? Some of them could be pretty big, with lots of board positions. Re-doing them as ascii boards like on old chess servers wouldn't be too much fun, but possible?
Symbols for all the chess pieces are in Unicode (see http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U2600.pdf ), but I don't image the glyphs are in all that many fonts! Having lots of images isn't that big a problem, especially if the images are only black-and-white. -- Jon Ingram
Jon Ingram wrote:
rnmscott@netspace.net.au wrote:
Interesting idea. I had never even thought of chess works, despite having actually read this, way back when, I think.
How would you do it, with images? Some of them could be pretty big, with lots of board positions. Re-doing them as ascii boards like on old chess servers wouldn't be too much fun, but possible?
Symbols for all the chess pieces are in Unicode (see http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U2600.pdf ), but I don't image the glyphs are in all that many fonts!
Having lots of images isn't that big a problem, especially if the images are only black-and-white.
Another approach to consider, and with any highly formatted textual objects where "layout is content" [note], is to use SVG to represent the chess board positions. With animated SVG, one should even be able to show the move-by-move board positions. SVG rendering engines are getting to be ubiquitous. The Mozilla engine includes support for some flavor of SVG. Jon [note: such things as ultra-complex tables, poetry and prose where the position of the text itself communicates content, etc., are types of content amenable to representation using SVG.]
Hmmm..... ok summary of ideas so far, and one more of my own. 1) As you mention, you could do the positions using just ascii characters. (a little tedious to do, but perhaps the most portable.) 2) Similar to above, only using high-unicode codepoints for chess pieces. Good point: standards compliant. Drawback: at present, not very many people could view it correctly. 3) You could extract images of each board position from page scans, and create an html file. 4) Using your own software, or what-have-you, you could create new images showing the same positions. (Probably result in cleaner images this way.) 5) Jon Noring mentioned using SVG, which I wouldn't have thought of. Investigate at your pleasure. 6) I'm sure I've seen somewhere in PG some use of PGN for recording chess games. It might be of use in this case. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_Game_Notation Andrew On Wed, 5 Jul 2006 rnmscott@netspace.net.au wrote:
Interesting idea. I had never even thought of chess works, despite having actually read this, way back when, I think.
How would you do it, with images? Some of them could be pretty big, with lots of board positions. Re-doing them as ascii boards like on old chess servers wouldn't be too much fun, but possible?
Richard
On 7/5/06, Andrew Sly <sly@victoria.tc.ca> wrote: <snip!>
6) I'm sure I've seen somewhere in PG some use of PGN for recording chess games. It might be of use in this case. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_Game_Notation
Yep! Here is The Blue Book of Chess, post-processed by Peter Barozzi at DP: http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/16377 He used PGN and provided modern notation for all the games in both file types. We created ascii boards for the text version in proofing, and he separately generated the illustrations of the boards for the HTML. Cheers, Suzanne ======================================= = Project Gutenberg's Distributed Proofreaders = Preserving History One Page at a Time. http:///www.pgdp.net =======================================
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