for what it's worth... neither "the secret garden" nor "swiss family robinson" have been updated with corrections to the errors that i listed in posts here... -bowerbird
Bowerbird@aol.com wrote:
neither "the secret garden" nor "swiss family robinson" have been updated with corrections to the errors that i listed in posts here...
I mailed a juicy list of errata to "Pride and Prejudice" to errata@pglaf.org and they got applied in less than 48 hours. Ergo: the errata team works fine. If your corrections still don't work, you have to look elsewhere to find the culprit. -- Marcello Perathoner webmaster@gutenberg.org
On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 03:14:28PM -0500, Bowerbird@aol.com wrote:
for what it's worth...
neither "the secret garden" nor "swiss family robinson" have been updated with corrections to the errors that i listed in posts here...
-bowerbird
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None of the errata team subscribe to gutvol-d, so don't see your posts. I don't see your posts either, but saw your thread had been responded to. To report errors, see our procedure here: http://www.gutenberg.org/faq/R-26 Short version: email to errata@pglaf.org I don't know what error reports you're talking about, or from when, and am too lazy to go hunting. Please report 'em, and they'll be fixed. -- Greg
Hi All, I am studying the options for preparing ebooks for text-to-speech. Does anybody have experience with that and willing to share experience. I am looking at things like SSML, aural-CSS, and text-to-speech software. Any software that can support this? My intention is to add the relevant tags to my TEI master, and generate SSML from that, feed that to TTS software to obtain audio files (Ideally, I would only post the SSML, and let people regenerate the speech when needed). Any tools that can be advised? Things to consider are additional tags to disambiguate words with identical spelling (read and read; record and record, for example), and to help pronouncing dates, currency amounts, measures, abbreviations, etc. Issues I found is lack of support for things like aural CSS, expensive software, etc. Jeroen.
In case you have not seen it yet, I'd suggest taking a look at DAISY: http://www.daisy.org/ Andrew On Tue, 14 Mar 2006, Jeroen Hellingman (Mailing List Account) wrote:
Hi All,
I am studying the options for preparing ebooks for text-to-speech. Does anybody have experience with that and willing to share experience.
I am looking at things like SSML, aural-CSS, and text-to-speech software. Any software that can support this? My intention is to add the relevant tags to my TEI master, and generate SSML from that, feed that to TTS software to obtain audio files (Ideally, I would only post the SSML, and let people regenerate the speech when needed). Any tools that can be advised?
Things to consider are additional tags to disambiguate words with identical spelling (read and read; record and record, for example), and to help pronouncing dates, currency amounts, measures, abbreviations, etc.
Issues I found is lack of support for things like aural CSS, expensive software, etc.
Jeroen.
That is certainly interesting, but seems not to be oriented towards computerized text-to-speech. What I am primarily looking at is methods to automatically read books, and markup that assists in doing so. Daisy appears to work from audio files, probably human spoken. Note that the tagging I have in mind may also help human readers to produce a human read spoken book. Jeroen. Andrew Sly wrote:
In case you have not seen it yet, I'd suggest taking a look at DAISY: http://www.daisy.org/
Andrew
Hi, That format is primarily for the blind. The format doesn't really do what is wanted. You can either have xml files which can be read by a screen reader and special software or mp3 recordings or both, but the speech isn't generated any differently than for plain text files. In fact, I download about 100 DAISY books per month and I always convert to plain text. The DAISY software I've used is better about handling new pages and navigation than plain text but the speech output is still the same. There is no way to do custom pronounciations or anything that I'm aware of. Also, that format is specifically designed for the blind and I doubt there is much mainstream support for it. Tools to convert tend to be expensive from what I've seen. At 01:55 PM 3/14/2006, you wrote:
In case you have not seen it yet, I'd suggest taking a look at DAISY: http://www.daisy.org/
Andrew
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006, Jeroen Hellingman (Mailing List Account) wrote:
Hi All,
I am studying the options for preparing ebooks for text-to-speech. Does anybody have experience with that and willing to share experience.
I am looking at things like SSML, aural-CSS, and text-to-speech software. Any software that can support this? My intention is to add the relevant tags to my TEI master, and generate SSML from that, feed that to TTS software to obtain audio files (Ideally, I would only post the SSML, and let people regenerate the speech when needed). Any tools that can be advised?
Things to consider are additional tags to disambiguate words with identical spelling (read and read; record and record, for example), and to help pronouncing dates, currency amounts, measures, abbreviations, etc.
Issues I found is lack of support for things like aural CSS, expensive software, etc.
I use the AT&T Natural Voice engine for most of my general fiction* conversion.. fairly resource intensive, but one of the better sounding voices. I keep a list of standard substitutions as I notice them. The engine does poorly on abbreviations and foreign loan words, and of course on heteronyms. Lead, axes, alternate, etc. You can specify alternate pronunciations in a phonetic language. Concatenated engines like Natural Voices, Cepstral, Neospeech and RealSpeak are limited in how much you can alter speed and timber before they get unusable.. NV tends to clip syllables at anything above roughly +1 or +2. Most of these engines are available via Nextup and other online retailers. Freeware engines such Festival tend to have somewhat lower out-of-the-box quality, but are more flexible (at least if you can tolerate LISP). In particular, in a synthesized TTS engine, you can turn up the speech speed much further before it becomes unintelligible, but it sometimes requires practice to understand. Synthesized speech compresses quite well with voice codecs.. if I'm not using an external MP3 player, I'll compress it with Speex at quality 4 or 5. R C *(I generate audiobooks from Webscriptions and Gutenberg for commute and other relative downtimes.) On 3/14/06, Jeroen Hellingman (Mailing List Account) < jeroen.mailinglist@bohol.ph> wrote:
Hi All,
I am studying the options for preparing ebooks for text-to-speech. Does anybody have experience with that and willing to share experience.
I am looking at things like SSML, aural-CSS, and text-to-speech software. Any software that can support this? My intention is to add the relevant tags to my TEI master, and generate SSML from that, feed that to TTS software to obtain audio files (Ideally, I would only post the SSML, and let people regenerate the speech when needed). Any tools that can be advised?
Things to consider are additional tags to disambiguate words with identical spelling (read and read; record and record, for example), and to help pronouncing dates, currency amounts, measures, abbreviations, etc.
Issues I found is lack of support for things like aural CSS, expensive software, etc.
Jeroen.
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On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 22:28:02 +0100, "Jeroen Hellingman (Mailing List Account)" <jeroen.mailinglist@bohol.ph> wrote: |Hi All, | |I am studying the options for preparing ebooks for text-to-speech. Does |anybody have experience with that and willing to share experience. | |I am looking at things like SSML, aural-CSS, and text-to-speech |software. Any software that can support this? My intention is to add the |relevant tags to my TEI master, and generate SSML from that, feed that |to TTS software to obtain audio files (Ideally, I would only post the |SSML, and let people regenerate the speech when needed). Any tools that |can be advised? | |Things to consider are additional tags to disambiguate words with |identical spelling (read and read; record and record, for example), and |to help pronouncing dates, currency amounts, measures, abbreviations, etc. Not to mention the different forms of ?English? American, Queens English, Indian English, Strine, to mention but a few. An American voice would sound terrible after a whole book. -- Dave Fawthrop <dave hyphenologist co uk> Freedom of Speech, Expression, Religion, and Democracy are the keys to Civilization, together with legal acceptance of Fundamental Human rights.
Hi There, If you have a Mac it will read it for you. You can also customize the dictionary. There is also a programming interface if you really want high quality output, you can even create your own voices. I personally have not played with it. It has been around for a long time. Keith. Am 15.03.2006 um 08:44 schrieb Dave Fawthrop:
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 22:28:02 +0100, "Jeroen Hellingman (Mailing List Account)" <jeroen.mailinglist@bohol.ph> wrote:
|Hi All, | |I am studying the options for preparing ebooks for text-to-speech. Does |anybody have experience with that and willing to share experience. | |I am looking at things like SSML, aural-CSS, and text-to-speech |software. Any software that can support this? My intention is to add the |relevant tags to my TEI master, and generate SSML from that, feed that |to TTS software to obtain audio files (Ideally, I would only post the |SSML, and let people regenerate the speech when needed). Any tools that |can be advised? | |Things to consider are additional tags to disambiguate words with |identical spelling (read and read; record and record, for example), and |to help pronouncing dates, currency amounts, measures, abbreviations, etc.
Not to mention the different forms of ?English? American, Queens English, Indian English, Strine, to mention but a few. An American voice would sound terrible after a whole book. -- Dave Fawthrop <dave hyphenologist co uk> Freedom of Speech, Expression, Religion, and Democracy are the keys to Civilization, together with legal acceptance of Fundamental Human rights.
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Yes, and it isn't open source, cross platform, or especially useful to anyone without a Mac. I for one can't use it because I don't have a Mac, and even if I did the built-in screen reader isn't perfect so I'm not sure how accessible it is. Also he didn't necessarily want actual audio output, only a means of which files could be created so users could make their own output if they wish. See my previous discussion about DAISY. At 04:38 AM 3/16/2006, you wrote:
If you have a Mac it will read it for you. You can also customize the dictionary. There is also a programming interface if you really want high quality output, you can even create your own voices.
I personally have not played with it. It has been around for a long time.
Hi There, He wanted a system for markup. The Mac system can do this. All needed information is avaible free of charge and can be used publically. The system is customizable. I do admitt it is not crossplatform, but it can be used as a starting place if one has access to a Mac. Furthermore, any encoding/markup he chosses will be bound to one program or the other. Also, it should be his decision if want I suggest will fit his needs or not. To my knowledge DAISY is not what he wants either!! flame someone else!!! Keith. Am 17.03.2006 um 10:53 schrieb Tony Baechler:
Yes, and it isn't open source, cross platform, or especially useful to anyone without a Mac. I for one can't use it because I don't have a Mac, and even if I did the built-in screen reader isn't perfect so I'm not sure how accessible it is. Also he didn't necessarily want actual audio output, only a means of which files could be created so users could make their own output if they wish. See my previous discussion about DAISY.
At 04:38 AM 3/16/2006, you wrote:
If you have a Mac it will read it for you. You can also customize the dictionary. There is also a programming interface if you really want high quality output, you can even create your own voices.
I personally have not played with it. It has been around for a long time.
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Hi People, What I wanted is a system of mark-up that has some value as standard. It should be future proof, well documented, and vendor neutral, such that I won't be forced to stay with one platform. I am currently looking at SSML, which is an XML based W3C standard, in combination with aural CSS stylesheets. I know there are very few tools for this, but will rather, for the time being, transform to temporary formats than compromise on non-standard formats for masters. I will actually integrate the information machine spoken books require in my master TEI documents with a small number of extentions, which again, I will document. For Project Gutenberg, we have to plan for the long term. Best regards, Jeroen. Keith J. Schultz wrote:
He wanted a system for markup. The Mac system can do this. All needed information is avaible free of charge and can be used publically. The system is customizable. I do admitt it is not crossplatform, but it can be used as a starting place if one has access to a Mac.
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Keith J. Schultz -
Marcello Perathoner -
Robert Cicconetti -
Tony Baechler