[Fwd: Ebook Reading device?]

Anybody want to answer this one? -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Ebook Reading device? Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 21:11:35 +0100 From: Robert Sutherland <robsuth@robsuth.plus.com> To: webmaster@gutenberg.org Being now in retirement I lately became interested in E-books and was delighted - amazed, more like! - to discover Project Gutenberg. However, I have been very puzzled by the apparent absence of a simple portable device designed for reading downloaded e.books. All my searches on the internet and my inquiries of the trade have failed to trace one. I wonder if you can put me on track of one? The trade just assume that a lap-top or a PDA would be quite adequate, but neither is really suitable. I use a lap-top mostly but they are far bigger than is required, and are far from being as portable as I am sure a specific device could be. I have not found a PDA with a large enough screen to provide comfortable reading - indeed, even to take the kind of line-length used in PG, or if they do it would excessively reduce the print size, which begins to matter as one gets older. To anyone making any considerable use of e.books a specific device designed for the purpose would be a distinct asset. As far as I see from the internet, there used to be a few such devices available but they seem to have been dedicated to special file formats used exclusively by firms producing e.books for sale: the indications seem to be that their efforts to establish monopolies mostly failed and their devices ceased to be available in the market. Some at least were exclusive to USA anyway, which would not have helped someone like myself resident in UK. I raised this matter with one of the main UK computing magazines but they came back only with the standard view that a PDA would do, which of course it would not, being designed for quite different purposes. I have also enquired of several of the main computing retailers, none of whom has shown the slightest interest. I feel quite surprised that nothing specific is available - have I missed something in my researches? If I have, I'd be very grateful if you could point me in the right direction; but if I have not, then could PG perhaps set a spark to some manufacturer's imagination? I thought that perhaps a modern DVD portable player might be the answer - some very cheap models are becoming available - but from the specifications I have seen and the advice given by retailers they are unlikely to be able to take .txt, .rtf or .pdf files. If they did, one could simply put the e.books onto CD or DVD as data files - although slightly bigger than Captain Picard uses when at leisure in his quarters, a portable DVD player would be much more convenient to use than a laptop. I am currently trying to ascertain whether it might be possible to charge an existing model with a program to make it compatible? One just needs .txt, .rtf and .pdf. Yours sincerely, Robert Sutherland ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -- Marcello Perathoner webmaster@gutenberg.org

On 8 Jun 2005, at 22:29, Marcello Perathoner wrote:
Being now in retirement I lately became interested in E-books and was delighted - amazed, more like! - to discover Project Gutenberg. However, I have been very puzzled by the apparent absence of a simple portable device designed for reading downloaded e.books. All my searches on the internet and my inquiries of the trade have failed to trace one. I wonder if you can put me on track of one?
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I raised this matter with one of the main UK computing magazines but they came back only with the standard view that a PDA would do, which of course it would not, being designed for quite different purposes. I have also enquired of several of the main computing retailers, none of whom has shown the slightest interest.
I feel quite surprised that nothing specific is available - have I missed something in my researches?
I am afraid you haven't missed much. There are a few devices that have been developed specifically for reading ebooks, notably the Sony Librie (<http://www.sony.jp/products/Consumer/LIBRIE/>) and the Ebookwise 1150 (<http://www.ebookwise.com/servlet/mw?t=book&bi=27007&si=43>). But as you noted:
As far as I see from the internet, there used to be a few such devices available but they seem to have been dedicated to special file formats used exclusively by firms producing e.books for sale: the indications seem to be that their efforts to establish monopolies mostly failed and their devices ceased to be available in the market.
However, since you don't mind asking Project Gutenberg, which produces very raw and unadorned ebooks, you probably do not mind having to put in some extra work. Both the Librie and the Ebookwise can handle other formats once you have made a conversion step.
I thought that perhaps a modern DVD portable player might be the answer - some very cheap models are becoming available - but from the specifications I have seen and the advice given by retailers they are unlikely to be able to take .txt, .rtf or .pdf files. If they did, one could simply put the e.books onto CD or DVD as data files - although slightly bigger than Captain Picard uses when at leisure in his quarters, a portable DVD player would be much more convenient to use than a laptop. I am currently trying to ascertain whether it might be possible to charge an existing model with a program to make it compatible? One just needs .txt, .rtf and .pdf.
A Play Station Portable may approach what you are looking for; I am not sure how well developed interfaces for DVD portables are. There used to be a small computer somewhere halfway between a PDA and a notebook that sounded promising, with wireless ethernet, sub 1-kg weight, 7 inch screen (VGA), and 11 hours of battery life. It was called the Psion Netbook, and it was pretty much stillborn. But the folks at The Register liked it (<http://www.theregister.co.uk/2002/09/09/i_have_seen_the_future/>) and to me it always sounded like a good ebook reading device. Psion followed it up with the Netbook Pro, which is way too heavy. If I were you, I would focus on the device first, and only then look if there is conversion software available. -- branko collin collin@xs4all.nl

I apologize for hammering your inbox, Robert, but Branko has an excellent idea: --- Branko Collin <collin@xs4all.nl> wrote:
A Play Station Portable may approach what you are looking for;
It's a bit pricey for *just* an ebook reader (not that a laptop is cheap), but here are two resources: http://gamefries.blogspot.com/2005/03/how-to-get-e-books-on-your-psp.html http://pdf2psp.sourceforge.net/ It's a "batch of images" approach so you can't search or anything, but it gets the job done. Most of the portable DVD players listed on Amazon also offer JPEG or Kodak Photo CD support, and you could probably use some of the same software as used for the PSP.
There used to be a small computer somewhere halfway between a PDA and a notebook that sounded promising, with wireless ethernet, sub 1-kg weight, 7 inch screen (VGA), and 11 hours of battery life. It was called the Psion Netbook, and it was pretty much stillborn.
The Oqo is similar and is finally "available", at $2600. The ThinkPad X41 would probably be a worthy competitor for e-booking--4 lbs., but 12" screen and "only" $1900. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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